[Research] Meta Archer Builds 🏹

[kidsanity]

for the uncrowded world bosses

There’s your answer. Also 200+ World bosses aren’t gonna stay uncrowded forever.

And it’s not about exaggarating, it’s about the fact that most of the time you will only be fighting another’s poison. Imagine you have a small boat and a ship, yet you still choose to sail your boat in the deepest part of the ocean even knowing that you’ll face far more danger than sailing your ship. You think it is rational? The thing is, why would you spend too much effort on something with questionable certainty?

[sudonim7]

Hey man, he asked for meta builds and I provided meta builds. QS3 Wugu2 is known to outperform fletcher3’s at rexipher. You can argue all you want why you think it’s good or not but the fact of the matter is that the build does well at 270+ world bosses.

[kidsanity]

Then let us give him something with maximum certainty, not something with a what if.

You can argue all you want why you think it’s good or not but the fact of the matter is that the build does well at 270+ world bosses.

Again, I’m not doubting the capacity of this build. But a big issue is at hand and we certainly cannot ignore it. Besides It’s just a matter of time that 270+ world bosses are going to be crowded.

[sudonim7]

I listed 3 builds, and a full STR QS alone without even wugu poisons will outperform a Fletcher3 at rexipher.

[kidsanity]

It’s the wugushi that has a problem here not QS3. So yeah

[Mamark]

QS3 Wugu2 is known to outperform fletcher3’s at rexipher.

The A>QS3>F3 meta will rise soon. haha only for WB hunting. dafaq

[Hakaze]

Shhhh don’t spread this build

[andre_luiz_gomes]

I dont really think QS3 would do anything usefull for boss hunting with F3, since the rotation of skills hardly leave any space for autoattack. Also, Barbed Arrow gives more DMG than any QS against Leather and Cloth bosses.

[Mamark]

need more reading though

QS3 Wugu2 is known to outperform fletcher3’s at rexipher.

[FoxBoltz]

Then let us give him something with maximum certainty, not something with a what if.

Thats the focus… I dont care if its cookie cutter or whatever.
I understand 2 things: that you cannot have PvE and PvP and that Low Budget is impossible on late game.
So screw PvP, lets focus on ET and WBs…

@kidsanity @Mamark @sudonim7 @andre_luiz_gomes @Hakaze @YuseiXyan @xgclaw @tampon

[Borel]

So is still viable the A2-QS3-Falconer-Musketeer build for pve purposes?
I’m currently a QS3 and that build was my initial goal, but now don’t know what to do.
Someone can advise me?

[FoxBoltz]

I heard both answers. Some ppl say its viable, others say is not worth it =S

[Takemi]

Circling from falconer is still useful when used with multi shot, caltrops, and covering fire, but its true potential shines when you’re in a party with others. If you plan on just solo grinding for items–or if you’re looking for something to primarily benefit yourself–scout would likely feel more fulfilling.

[YuseiXyan]

At this point I would say nothing is for certain, rumours are Fletcher3 can’t last on WB 280 (not enough inventory room for arrows? or damage falls off vs builds with large burst large cds over a super long fight). Rank 8 seems to be coming soon, which would mean potentially many more viable builds for every role. And stories are present of group-setups competition being overwhelming with a handful of fully optimized max or nearly max MA attribute full STR fletcher3 taking all the cubes. even your staple F3 on a WB that would be considered best for F3 may be considered at this moment no-cube without large gear/attribute investment.

But if I had to pick. F3 solo or with group - A2 path with choice of r4 pick or R3 path, or Dream’s Scout3 with a group based around giving you capture aoes.

[xylonez]

At this point I would say nothing is for certain, rumours are Fletcher3 can’t last on WB 280

That’s definitely not true. Fletcher isn’t really good for Aoe and burst, but if there’s 1 thing that fletcher excels at, it’s single target sustained dps.

damage falls off vs builds with large burst large cds over a super long fight

Your logic is weird. Why would a class that has low cd skill do less dps against a class with high burst high cd on a long fight. It’s called burst, because it excels in short fights, not the other way around.

[FoxBoltz]

well I decided that for now, Im sticking with my Elememe and waiting for Rank8+ to decide which Archer build Im gonna roll

[sudonim7]

Fletcher does amazingly well on 270+ world bosses, the only ones it has trouble with are the ones that fly around a lot or destroy deployment skills constantly, and Rexipher has reflect damage so that’s annoying as fck to deal with too.

[YuseiXyan]

kay thanks for clearing it up, it was just a rumour I heard in many other threads claiming that huge boss HP numbers makes fletcher lose out in the long run.

also, my reasoning was because you can many of those burst phases over a longer period of time. it was just a guess as to one of the reasons why the rumour above was.

[sudonim7]

Fletcher is unparalelled at sustained dps, the only thing i can imagine doing more damage is a Cleric2 Krivis3 Druid2 int build with 3-4 chronomancer supports all using pass in perfect rotations, but that’s just too much effort.

[Luven]

guys how about rogue C3? no one talks about rogues XD
are they really only useful in pvp?

i know C1 is already really good, but how does (rogue C2,C3) backstab fair in ET or WBs?