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Ranger's Steady Aim update / Rogue C2 or Ranger C3 for Musketeer?

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Hi y’all

I’m making a A1-R2-Sc1-Ro2-M, about 6~7th char already, included trying A2-R3-Sc1-M and Hunter type. Currently at Ro1, rank 5 with this character.

My aim is increasing Snipe’s dmg to the max. And after several testing I came to the conclusion that the best way to reach that high & stable dmg is high crit rate and raw dmg, that’s why I’m trading A2 and R3 for Ro2. Mainly for 100% uptime of Sneak Hit and Vendetta. Sneak Hit and Evasion also clear up some points in DEX to put into STR.

To the topic: the new update for Steady Aim reads: add dmg change from (3 * skill lvl)% to (5 + skill lvl)%. My question is:

1/ Steady Aim had the (3 * skill lvl)% multiplier, but it got changed like this already isn’t it? As far as I can see, it has always been (5 + skill lvl)% since OB.

2/ In the event that IMC f*cked up (like usual) by mistaking the order, i.e from (5 + skill lvl)% to (3 * skill lvl)%, the difference between lv 10 and lv 15 spike from 5% to 15%.
So, if this change is real, R3 or Ro2, which in your opinion will have more merit to it? In other words, is Ro1 suffice? I’ll be sacrificing 100% uptime of both skills and no Evasion. Feint Barrage combo is still viable thou.

But if IMC f*cked up by didn’t proof read enough, and just copy from previous updates, disregard this topic then haha.

Thank you for reading :smiley:

#2

Hmmm I wonder too.
I read at patch note for tmr it change from (3 * skill lvl) > (5 + skill lvl) (45>20)
Yes It already change.
But It not only steady aim.
Highlander skills also already change too.

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#3

Because they first had kToS version of the balance tweaked in an image of iToS version in regards to Higlander/Ranger (we had those fixes before kToS as an experiment), then they implemented the patch on iToS that brought us an outdated kToS version that didn’t include abovementioned Highlander/Ranger changes. And now they are fixing it again. Hope it’s understandable.

It’s just how IMC are…

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#4

We never had the Ktos strong steady aim since our nerfs. It is (5 + skill lvl)%.

Rogue 1 is enough. Uptime on sneak hit will be 90%, 10 seconds CD.
You could go scout/falcon/a2 > musket after.

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#5

I already have Sc, the reason why I don’t want to go Ranger c3 is because I don’t want to have too much bow stance skills. I hate switching weapons. Having R3 will come with 2 more bow skills, equate to more hassle in skill rotation.
And it’s more like 85,71% uptime lol, not to mention I’ll lose 10 more % crit rate, 1/3 Vendetta uptime (25 STR with that), and no Evasion. These may seem insignificant to high DEX build, but I’m making a high STR build so every little bits help :smiley:

#6

You are at A1-R2-Sc1-Rogue1.
So choices are:

Rogue 2 > Musketeer. Benefit of 100% uptime on sneakhit, and evasion buff, and lachrymator is decent CC on mobs. Backstab isn’t necessary.

R3 > Musketeer. Benefit of a little bit stronger steady aim. Steady aim is all you will use from ranger if you dislike weapon swap. Spiral arrow on full-drawed mobs damage though. Snipe will hit more on fulldraw though.

A2 > Musketeer. Not very attractive since you are high STR, and already have rogue sneak hit. If you gear up a lot for crit rate it could be decent. The only reason to take A2 is swift step though.

Falconer > Musketeer. Mainly taken to provide party support through circling. Circling will only decently boost Covering Fire because snipe has been nerfed. However Circling + musket2/musket3 skills could be nice - we do not have info on those yet.

Circling + snipe nerfed:

Scout2 > musketeer. A big no. Scout is a rank1 or rank3 class, rank2 offers too little. Perspective distortion is a support skill, and it is bad.
Quarrel Shooter1 - only pavise and some caltrops. No.
Hunter 1 - buggy pet, and no Hounding/retrieve to reset pet. Might be OK if you really really like Snatching (on bosses).
Sapper 1 - worst sapper. Only sapper2 is decent for broom trap. Sapper1 is ok if you really like detonate traps (as PvP utility).
Wugu1 - if you like poison. Weakest poison though, low uptime.
Reiter 1 - using musket + xbow,pistol + bow? Can’t swap. Also, mount, dismount mechanics. You won’t get mount bonus stats when you are unmounted. No.
Fletcher 1 - only reason to take fletcher1 is Bodkin point to remove the annoying shield on Siaulai Tree Boss.

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#7

Tbh author, it’s either

Arch2-Ranger1-Scout1-Rogue2-Musketeer1 for full PvP, can even add Sapper1 instead of Arch2 if you are 100% retarded PvP person (I mean, you will suffer in PvE, but in PvP that build would destroy everything, and I know what I’m talking about)

or

Arch2-Ranger1-Scout1-Rogue1-Falconer1-Cannoneer1 - with this you will still PvP VERY well, but you’ll also be a welcome sight in any grind/et party because Falconer + Cannoneer and Feint + Barrage. In time, that build will probably outgear the first one, because first one has no PvE, and this one has excellent PvE.

Ranger2 is just a very bad choice and I recommend rerolling.

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#9

Only shows his capability to start anew, sorry, doesn’t justify levelling a rofl-build at all.

#10

Haha thanks for the input. Of course I can still redo another one if the situation calls for it (some retard Musketeer updates or rank 3 could be shyt), but I don’t see the appeal in A2 at all since I’m making a STR build. Believe it or not, after 4~5 A2 characters, my first one is A2 R3 Sc Mu, others include A2 - Hunter and A2 Sapper. I’m done with it lol.

With A2 I get:
Lv 10 Multishot - will get replaced by Covering Fire, I hate swap weaps
100% uptime Swift Step, comes with some perks:
25% crit chance - pale in comparison with Sneak Hit if I’m able to maneuver enough.
Semi-perma CC with Oblique Shot: this is nice, especially when you’re in a pt full of mages and clerics who use ground spells, no tanks needed. But still have to use bows most of the time for this, and renders you to be a spamming bot so I’m not a fan.
Kneeling Shot - well…no DEX. Sp efficiency is a plus but it’s kinda boring.

By no mean I’m saying A2 is a bad choice, but I just can’t find the appeal in it with the direction I’m going for.

The only perk for R2 is Steady Aim, other skills are irrelevant, I know. BUT I don’t see the appeal in A2 over that tiny 5% of Steady Aim, since Steady Aim will be the skill rotation opening for me and I won’t be using Archer’s skill that much.

#11

This one is fine. What do you dislike?

#12

I think he hate Musketeer gameplay like me lol.

#13

He is building one again.

#14

Oh yeah how I forgot. This topic talk about Steady Aim for musket. That mean no way he hate musketeer lol. Then maybe he build new one because he need high/full STR.

#15

I hate weap switching lol
Frame drops, inconsistent damage, musketeer’s skill froze your character a bit after use so changing weap becomes an even bigger problem.
Hate it so much that I’m ready to make several characters to get around it haha

#16

if you want to stay in musket stance, you can play your build around sapper2/wugushi2/scout/rogue1/falc or hunter.
their skills dont need bow/crossbow stance.
tbh, you dont need to maximize snipe dmg, since i think the dmg cap is 99999, and with musket2 at r8, all you need is critical and high attribute with rogue and werewolf card.

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