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Range Hack with Dethrone

  • Server : Silute

  • Team Name : Gakiru

  • Location : TBL

  • Approximate date / time (EDT) : 9:15 pm (not sure)

  • Evidence

I think at first is some kind of reveal hack because this player always hit me with dethrone when I was in hide, but today I realise is other thing, in the video you can see when he use Dethrone (sec 00:04 - 00:46) and hit me and my partner even if we are not close, Hack?

If he can hit you while hidden in 10/10 matches that’s gotta be a hack but the range of Dethrone is absurd both length and width wise, it goes past the player’s screen(no zoomy).

But look in the sec 00:46 where is facing the Dragoon.

Rechecked vid, yeah you have a point.
Then again Dethrone has 2 overheats, could’ve shot you guys each, or I can argue with the game’s shitty desynching player position coding.

Well, I hope a staff look this up.

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The other who shot you was the archer, and if he have the habilty that can show where the others are when cloaking, he can mark you. And dethrone dont get the same damage you receive from the archer.

Name Type Max Level CD SP
Scan Buff 5 58s 40
Description
Show hidden items and enemies within range.

OP also got hit by a Dethrone at 00:46, you can clearly see the skill debuff icon after the hit.
I’m not well verse with damage calculations, but OP was wearing a Didel Tower Shield when he got hit the other guy was wearing a dagger(likely Karacha) on his off hand.

The only weird was the 1st dethrone. <–can be explained if he randomly throws his dethrone.

In the 2nd match they saw you after you used your skill, smokes were visible.

The 3rd match you were unfortunately hit by splash damage of dethrone.

Very high chance though that dragoon were using a zoomy addon.

AFAIK Zoom addons don’t work in TBL anymore.

As a Goon2 that used to TBL, this isn’t new to me. I blame this on sync issues and possibly unknown bugs which is not exclusive to Dethrone alone but to other AOE skills as well (e.g. Raise or MF catching you even if it seems you’re really not in range).

Guess it’s still worth investigating. At least perhaps IMC would discover a bug or two.

I dont know about zoomy banning in TBL. Pretty sure zoomy is still rampant. I had people telling me on TBL last night which of which were opponents classes before the fight started.

If zoomy is banned already in TBL, then those people probably manually adjusted their zoom in the client.

While in a match, press F4 > Team Battle League > Join TBL > Spectate

You should be able to see both your team and the enemy team’s lineup if you do this fast enough (or else it gets pushed down the view window by newer matches). As for builds, just do /memberinfo TEAM_NAME in chat.

Yes, Zoomy is still rampant but it’s now just used for non-TBL purposes as more of a QoL improvement for the game especially in PVE. I don’t know if it still works in GvG though.

As @Fuwaro previously said, Dethrone’s range goes beyond the max zoom level in TBL. AFAIK we haven’t heard anything in kTOS about possible change to its range so I guess it’s really intended to be that way. Anyone who joins TBL and complains about getting OHKOed should really reconsider their equipment and stat allocation.

People need to learn about the mechanics. You saw about the damage. The one you told that was about the dethroned, the range of the attack is very big. I know because I have one. You and your friend are in the same line vertically, so you received the attack that has done and got by both.

Zoomy dont tell where you are, and in GVG it doesnt work.

I won’t assume that it’s a hack or anything for now, but Dethrone does not have that big of a vertical range.

I look some other vids I have and found this one (is before the one I put in the first post):

On how to find an archer while they are cloaking: we can see em for a split second when they use pots, buffing or getting debuff. then we predict where they move immediately. That how i always do so far.

In ur 1st video, it was the hunter skill,using pet to find hidden enemy.

But u got a point about the width of dethrone in the 2nd video, coz that should be a clear miss.

pessoal, agora falando em portugues ja que vcs são br, e o arqueiro do time dele? Ja falei que o fato de vcs estarem hide não é nada se o cara ativar a habilidade de mostrar quem está hide.

Sobre Range do ataque dele, outra habilidade da mesma classe pra quem nĂŁo conhece:

I speak spanish, but in this forum you need to write in English.

Maybe the cannoner uses perspective distortion in the 00:46 but in 00:05 he is away from me when detrhone hit me

You don’t need perspective distortion to see cloaked targets. If you get close enough to a cloaked target you will still auto target them and a circle underneath them will be highlighted, when that happens you need to lock on to them and just follow them to stick to them. Its a simple trick I used to murder cloaked archers in TBL and GvG. It works best with a controller.

No one says Perspective distortion is to see cloaked players, it makes short range attacks hit like a long range attack when the scout is near to the target.