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R.I.P. pyromancers (?) or maybe all dps wizz class (?)

IMO this image describes who imc think is make a pyro class on a rpg game. or maybe an entire mage tree class.
whatever, after check the % of every skill from wizz tree on ktest server, i think imc kill every build with C1 of a class, its a shame that bettween 15 class on a tree only 3 can reach the top dps…

R.I.P. pyromancer the only class who breack the meta even if its was only for 4 months

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Sweet, sweet pyromancer tears.

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i was not pyromancer but i hate elememe xD

Ele is the “true” Aoe Dps Wiz.
In a balanced game the price for good dps is casttime.(For wiz)
Not this instant mobbkill Pyro/linker sh!t.

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Casttime here is so much better than ridiculous cast animations.

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but elememe its the same. they put a deploy skill and step arround… 3 butons dps…

at least with pyro 3 y can put every another class that u like. and its work.

I have 3 flavours of Pyro:

Wiz>Pyro 3>Linker 2>Thau 2
Wiz>Pyro 2>Linker 2>Alchemist 3
Wiz>Pyro 3>Linker 2>Warlock 2

And I’m glad those both Pyro and Linker are nerfed. Sorry.

As it currently stands, there’s nothing really much that can compete with them for DPS.

Even my Hl3/Barb1/Doppel3 gets sometimes out dpsed by pyros and thats with 2x sissel and lvl 50 cyclone >.>
And pyros have 0 downside can wear a shield ect its just stupid.

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while elememe is still in the top of wiz builds

but the problem was the bonus damage from the kind of armor on the mob, and that will be solved, also. the agnis damage. who will be nerfed to 50% damage plus only. and the problem that i say is that imc nerf all class exept elememe’s build. thats is on the damage % of every skill

patch notes? I dont like doing things

Play it or get a clue before you spread nonsense.

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I dont get all this Nerf nonsense talk…
Everyone just seems to throw the word around and not really know what their on about…
The only thing that you mentioned was the %dmg being low on the Pyro?
I had a look and it seems fine to me.

Also keep in mind Agny, the damage now is calculated by weapon damage, meaning your low rank classes are gonna keep scalling with your gear and compete with the rank 8 classes, its no longer base damage, so Agny was ADJUSTED for those calculations, left how it was, it would make 1 tick of fireball one shot a boss.

If you want to talk %dmg still and say its low, think that for example the %dmg of Fireball is 400%, stick Agny on (+50% Fire dmg), your Fireball is now 600%.

More or less how it works, make sense now?

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IMO, the only thing that really bothers me is how Warlock seems a little bit confusing now, since invocation mechanics is completely different, I guess one must be very careful if going to the warlock path now, since the wl 2 skills are such a mess (I can’t even understand what ghastly trail is used for, it’s so pathetic…) and most players dislike how drain works (if work at all), I have a wl myself and to be honest I didn’t pick any of wl 2 skills, just max’ed the circle one skills and that’s all, my concern is what they’re planning to do with the class on rank 9… I’m expecting a big massive damage dealer spell or something like that, cuz if they’re adding more levels to those ridiculous circle2 skills and some weird atributtes, then the class is dead and gone for good.

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no i never say that pyro is the only who will be nerfed. the problem is that elememe class (elementalis warlock) will be the only class who will get tons of damage/per sec on theyr skills. anothers class will be “buffed” too like the ice blast of cryo but its only for 3 overheats.

personally, for me hurts more the nerf to the cryo kino combo

Im sure the classes will be just fine wen we play them finally :slight_smile:

What is the nerf to cry kino combo?
Someone said something about a limit on ice walls you can hit or something like that?

i dont know about the number of hits but the final damage will be almost the half. because imc nerf the base damage of each piece of wall to 80% and the bonus damage of the isa of rune caster to 150% from 300%

Better reread the notes. It simply add 50% to the base. For example base is 230% then 230+50=280% Also check the class dmg rework thread. Good info there.

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False
agny necklace add 50% directly to skill factor,
so if fireball is 400% it become 450%

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I was going on about what i read wen they first announced the changes.
But still fair enough, 50% is still quite a lot.

I personally don’t think classes are getting nerfed, might feel that way at first with some playstyle changes, but it wont be long before people work out how to go back to doing crazy damage.

Wasent the idea of Agny to help the lower ranks compete with the higher ones in the first place?
Far as i remenber they were gonna release other necklaces.

With the combat update thats gonna be done anyways, bah, im sure everything will be just fine, all these arguments just feel like time killers untill we get the patch.