I’m doing sw3 barb1 cors3 fencer1. Idk if I’m losing too much dps as most corsair3 now involved shinobi.
Imo corsair3 with shinobi should go hoplite2 for spear lunge to benefit burst from clone.
Other variant with shinobi doesn’t seems that appealing with limited benefit from clone.
And I happened not liking the appearance of pirate using spear. Again, this is my opinion on corsair c3, not c1 or c2 cos losing a circle at r7 is big.
You are totaly right. I only picked those skills at least 1 Skillpoint cuz i like the flair of those skills. (Not because they offer good DPS anyways)
Katon and Mijin serve to different purposes.
Katon deals dmg infront of u. (less CD)
Mijin deals dmg around u. (higher CD)
For raw dmg Mijin is better, also i have the feeling Mijin as a larger radius than the front AoE katon has.
I never seen the enemy get dmged while using Mokuton. For the first hit u take after using Mokuton u wont recieve dmg.
Normaly i dont use this skill while PvE - mostly instead of an escape skill it teleports u right into the fry and u cant move at all cuz the skill bugs out.
I never PvPed on this character, so i can´t answer that.
This is fine. Instead of Kunai u recieve some nice benefit´s. I probably would go that build if i werent to focused on Shinobi right now.
Fencer 1 is very nice.
Lunge (Slash Debuff) -> Dust Devil, Double Slash, Flannconade (in combination with Cleave also Slash Debuff)
Some nice skill rotations can be made with Lunge + Cleave + any Slash Skills.
Attribute Aggression: +15% Dmg while wearing Rapier without a shield (Shoudl work with Pistol, although i never tested that until now, also despite the tooltop its not only Pierce dmg but every dmg source - probably a bug might be fixed!)
Spet Etoile is a very nice Skill
Also u have Rapier + Pistol for Style! <3
Well i had a Hoplite2-Corsair3-Shinobi before the reset Event.
I didn´t liked it! Burst is indeed nice.
But consider 2 things. Spear Lunge Debuff got nerfed.
Double Slash is right a now a very very strong skill, cuz it crits reliable. (Double Slash works with Bunshins and Cleave)
Meaning that Cleave + Double Slash with Bunshins is with a 3 OH in combination more dmg than Kunai with Bunshins under a Spear Lunge Debuff.
Pistol Shot doesnt count as Pierce Dmg anymore, so wont get any benefit from spear Lunge.
Hexen Dropper wont get bonus dmg. But Dust Devil will get the Bonus Dmg.
Hoplite 2 offers Finestra which yields 150 Crit Rate as of now and AoE Ratio. (This is huge) Stabbing and Pierce are both in a serious crisis as of now.
Sw3-barb offers longer Pain Barrier, Gung-Ho/Concentrate, Restrain and Double Slash.
I dont have any experience on corsair, but i enjoy the class
Was thinking to go the Sw3-Cor3-Barb-Shin route, but would it still have fun PvE compared to something like Sw3-HL3-Barb-Shin?
How is the pistol damage, compared to Skyliner and moulinet from HL with bushin?
For now i have ~180 DEX (Gear included). Any higher and i couldnt feel a big difference in ASPD.
Every other points are in STR.
Corsair 3 is better than before the patch. Still not a beast in PvE. (With good gear ur dmg is very nice, tho)
SW3-Barb-Cor3-Shin is by far the most fun build i ever played in this game.
The Highlander path has more synergy (Moulinet with Bunshins) and Skyliner is a very good skill. Highlander is also very nice to play with its combo skills. Still since i wanna play Corsair, Highlander is out…
Pistol Shot in comparison to Moulinet and Skyliner is a tough question. I tried both builds.
Pistol Shot is very strong now (I still only have a +11 Manamana - halfway through with my Aspana Revolver) It also has a very large range and the ricochet attribute is very very good. Using it with Restrain can stun a big mob pack completly.
Pistol Shot cant be used by Bunshins (like any other Corsair Skills…)
Skyliner deals high dmg und bleeding. But it has a very short and small hitbox, so u have to get used to it. Skyliner cant be used by Bunshins. Also short CD and 5 OH.
Moulinet is very strong now. With the Crown Debuff ur dmg skyrockets. If u use Bunshins u can make large burst combos with Double Slash x3 and Moulinet and Kunai x2.
Moulinet is a skill which has a long animation time (U cant do anything else while using it). This feels clunky for me, and is a reason not to go this path in the long run - at least for me. (Like my decision not to go doppel - cuz i hate using cyclone…)
In terms of raw dmg:
Moulinet Bunshin > Skyliner > Pistol Shot > Moulinet
In terms of AoE viabilty:
Pistol Shot > Moulinet Bunshin > Moulinet > Skyliner
Keep in mind that this 3 skills are hard to compare cuz they serve different aspects of the game.
Final conclusion:
Highlander is very good in Bossing. Its whole kit is made for Bossing, cuz almost everything is small hitbox but with high dmg and lowish CD.
IMO Highlander skills realy shine with a 2-handed sword cuz of the higher PAtk they offer. (I dont wanna play a 2-handed Shinobi…)
Corsair is a bit of an AoE and Single target character (Hexendropper and Dust Devil are medicore Hitboxes - Dust Devils first 2 hits are around urself while the 3rd hit is only in front of u but with a wider range. Hexen and Dust Devil deal very good dmg now.
Pistol Shot is ur AoE massacre Skill. (Only when u have Ricochet, tho.
Hope that could give u some insight, and helped u to decide.
Pve cor3 .I have tested 4-5 types of cor build, so in my build option is:
Sw2-bar3-cor3:
Sw2: i dont take restrain cus it drain 3000k hp, useless with boss, CC is No.1. But i still refer 4-5 temp card 10*. Silent mobs for 4s with pistol shot. Take max Con, pain, 3 Bash
Bar3: take option whip skill, it can deal aoe dmg when mobs in medium range. Good for pvp also. Or max warcry-frenzy with attribute. Max Seim, heim chopper, cleave for good, skip pouncing cus hits box isnt that good in IMC adv vid(meh).
Cor3: iron hook lv5, RJ lv5-10, dust devil max if you want to, max hexen pistol shot.
I thought of making a world boss killer HL3Cor3. Will it be able to do his job? So far at Siaulais (lel) I top DPS even without blessing and competing with people with the event weapons. However, my AoE is ■■■■, but I don’t care since it’s going to be a world boss build.
Inputs on it? Should I pick another class instead?
Atm im using a +11 Vienerazis Mace (Abdachor is in my reach so i just keep by with it, probably 2 or 3 days until i can use Abdachor) and +11 Manamana with lvl 7 Red Gem.
I use maxed Gung-ho and i use leather armor.
Currently (new HG lvl 315 chest, Virtov Gloves, Virtov Boots and Virtov Legs)
2 Sissel or 2 Phada depends if i need AoE or not.
3 Headgears all with 100+ Patk and 160+ CAtk
Max Peta
I dont have any problems farming anything. My attributes all range about lvl 80-90.
Important is Cleave + Double Slash/Dust Devil
Also i use Cleave just for the free 50 Crit Rate, so feel free to use it right before Hexen/Kunai or even Pistol.
Kunai 90
Double Slash 90
Pistol 90
Hexen 80
Dust Devil 80
Those are the attributes i have.
Double Slash is with Cleave 40k per hit
Kunai is 10k per hit
Pistol is…well about 10k per hit (not sure since so much numbers… xD) average is 10k
Hexen is 10k
Dust is with Cleave 25k per hit, while the last hit is higher 40k
It might be easier gearing a Sw3-Hl3-Barb-Shin for a Worldboss build, tho. Also this will give u right more Burst Dmg, which is needed in Bossing.
In Worldbossing 2 things are required.
CC Immunity or at least Knockback Immunity -> Sw3 check
Burst -> Moulinet-Bunshin, Double Slash-Bunshin and Kunai-Bunshin is there for u
Cleave from Barb will increase the dmg u deal with Moulinet (use Crown before Moulinet for double dmg) and Double Slash, so use it before that.
Also u can use 2-handed sword for this build.
If Worldbosing is what u wanna do, i wouldnt go for Corsair. Except u are like me and dont care about max dmg and just enjoy playing a funny class like Corsair - cuz i go WB and every other content in this game with my Corsair, with success - although high invest is required for it.
Well if u are a Corsair at a Worldboss, it might happen that Pillaging yield u a cube. This can even happen in ET or Dungeons
Well, HL Corsair is really fun to play and it has decent single target burst damage. However, as you said, I doubt it’s enough compared to Shinobi memes.
And yeah, one thing I noticed that make build suck was the lack of Pain Barrier. I think without Sw3 right now it will possible to do it.
I was thinking about using Corsair for Jolly Roger as well. That 50%+ missile damage isn’t a joke. Since my friend has an Archer for world bosses, we could pair together for that.
I never said they are bad, they just serve different purpose. What i meant was that for raw bossing a burst build will be better than a Corsair build.
I play a Sw3-barb-Cor3-Shin as my main. (this build might be what u seek, sadly no Highlander in it - i enjoy Highlander myself and i wanted to fit it in, but there´s just no space - and i dont wanna miss SW3)
Well some may argue Sw-HL3-Cor3-Shin might do the trick. (Still no long Pain Barrier)
U could probably try that out in the last week of the reset Event, if u wanna.
Using JR as buff for ur teammate is fine, but well…U might aswell go Necro to debuff those sweeet 100% Missile Dmg which has full uptime than going JR. (I dont skill JR that high -> 2 points for attribute)
Well I did try it at R7 and it did just fine. But since I’m not competing with people for stuff like Demon Lords, I can’t tell if it’s viable or not.
I think with the upcoming boss changes mentioned in the Combat Update Dossier 5 this build should be more viable even with Pain Barrier 5. But I don’t know, it’s still a gamble.
Thanks for the input! I’ll think about it. I don’t really want to use Shinobi, I didn’t like it. But I do agree with everything you said.
Hmm why do you use leather armor when you only have around 180dex though?
I know usually people who go leather are either high or full dex builds…
Is leather armor good even though we have low dex?
Because I would imagine leather is great for archers but for cor3shino we have to be in melee range and take damage alot, especially bunshin being a risky move… plate would help us stay in the fray longer?
Leather Armor gives now +50 Crit Rate/Accuracy which is a huge boost. Still 180 Dex is something, and i have quite a lot of CAtk (cuz before the big patch i needed those…still sitting on 10000 lvl15 Crit Atk Potions, tho)
Since i invested heavily in Leather Armors even before my gear is quite huge upgraded and with high lvl yellow gems. Given i havent found an better plate Armor till yet.
Also Leather Armor tends to give more Offensive stats (Take Virtov Gloves or Solmiki Leather GLoves for example)
Is that important ASPD? I actually don’t understand how it works with skills with overheat like hexen dropper or dust devil. DEX for ASPD is just for PvE reasons? With a SW3-Barb-Cor3-Shin for a PvP focus i can go full STR or i need some DEX and/or CON?
I will really appreciate some help, I’m really lost after this patch.
Aspd affects skills in which it is mentioned (Namely: Dust Devil, Hexen Dropper and Double Slash in a Sw3-Barb-Cor3-Shin build)
This means they can be cast faster after each other and the execution time is shorter.
So for my a fluid gameplay i enjoy the most i need ~180 Dex. It just feels more fluid and looks better
For a Pvp Focus, i guess it still is nice to have some Dex since u get Block Penetration with it. Well tbh. i dont do Pvp very much and those times i did it i never had problems. I dont have any point in Con, tho.
I did farm the 315 HG. I dont have fun hunting their with alot of other players running around. So atm i spend my time farming Abdochar and Aspana Revolver. (1more day for Abdachor if everything works out…->looking at u DPK)
Im not sure if AoE affects Pistol Shot. I never tested it. I´ll start testing it and and give u my answer later.