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Question on my cataphract build

At 1st, this is my first following swordsman build and beginner swordsman player. i follow the build of so far

Im prioritize on pvp/tbl/GvG if i have a guild with little pve
My current stage:
Sw1 > Sw2 > Hop1 > Cata1
planned stats, con 80 total, dex around 100, all others goes str
skills not followed, Thrust lv0, concentrate lv8, pain barrier lv7 as i want my pain barrier up as long as possible and concentrate not so rewarding at lvling up before they buff it recently.

question is, when i reach rank 7. Is the Dragoon c1 really that worth it at all? Because i want thinking to give Sw3 or Hop2 or Pelt1?? for even more better improvement of my skill and choosing rank 8 Lancer c1 that will be release soon.

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swordsman c3 is a little better in my opinion for pure pvp ( i myself am a sword 3 for my catagoon and i love it for pvp)
but having a hoplite circle is fine, don’t sweat it and do not reroll you are good lancer is getting a 30% knockback change attribute which seems really nice to me
as for stat build, my current stat build for my catagoon (who is 280) is 120 con 160 dex 204 str,
now you don’t have to follow that exact build
i suggest you get at least 100-120 con, rest is up to you i’d get more than 100 dex but thats really up to you
i think a mix of str and dex is the best if your goal is to pvp
im just gonna say do not take neither hoplite 2 nor pelt 1 at rank 7
you have 3 viable options at rank 7 as a cataphract 3
the 1st 1 is dragoon (dragoon got nice dps skills that 1 shot people in pvp, they are also multi hit which scales amazing and has good synergy with restrain)
2nd one is corsair, for the hook which is AMAZING CC rank 10 CC which means no plague doctor will ever be able to stop it
3rd one is rodelero, because all rodelero skills can be used mounted and rodelero got like 5 CC skills just from the 1st circle (if you decide to put rodelero c1 at rank 7 you will use 1h spear and a shield since you took hoplite, i might think that going rodelero at rank 7 is a good choice, you’ll have to use 1h spear and a shield but don’t worry brandish+aias is a really strong combination shield trot+charge is really op seems like a fun and good pvp build if you are interested
but yea generally it isn’t smart to pick rank 2-3 classes like hoplite 2 or peltasta at rank 7, dragoon is still the safest choice since the rodelero build hasn’t been tested (still seems very strong to me)
dragoon is basically a filler, you get some nice burst skills to your kit which are really good for killing people (not kidding dragontooth really has amazing damage in pvp most archers get 1 shot by it)
what i found is that dragoon skills’ damage are better in pvp than it is in pve, and they also have good synergy with restrain because they are stationary, the heavy CC that the cataphract brings to the table really helps, basically all you need is to land a bash, doom spike, or earth wave( earth wave is actually the easiest to land) and you can dragoontooth+serpentine someone to death (most players will have less than 40% hp after those 2 skills)
Both have short enough cast times to be able to bursst someone quickly after a knockdown.
This is basically why you pick dragoon

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You don’t need to pick dragoon at rank 7 (unless you want dragoon c2 of course)

For PvP corsair -> lancer is a safe choice

The build is rather bad if you ask me. Reduce some points in Gung ho, it’s pretty useless. Add 3 points to bash, max concentrate and more pain barrier.

dragoon is nice too
casting dragoon tooth after a knock down (1 of the 3 you got) can finish the job
the corsair build hasn’t been tested so i cannot say if its good or not but most catas in my server are dragoons
unless they are guild masters i did see 1 cata 3 doppel but he suucked at pvp
oh and btw @thailehuy is right this guide really is bad.

You only get hop or dragoon for the one hand spear. If your goal is shilded catagoon. But goon is better than hop. For shield pelt vs rodel. But I like pelt better…300+ leveling solo? …hmm. but you will definitely be better pvp if you go sword3…but I love the 1950 block and 25% hp. taunt and 18% evasion and 10% defrnse option for pelts…so.

Dragoon 1 sucks for lancer, it offers nothing. OP should get Hoplite 2 for spear lunge pierce debuff instead, all of Lancers skills are pierce,
SW2, Hop2, Cata3, Lancer. Dragoon 1 will fall in rank 8 if not rank 9. Rank 7 Cata going into Lancer should pick utility in rank 7 to help Lancer. I picked Dopple for additional damage on my Rush.

if you land a good knockback (which is easy to land) dragon skills literally 1 shot people.

The full con cryo? Or High evasion Archer?

should i remind you that to proc DoV you have to be hit 5 times?
the high evasion archer’s snipe? (or even coursing)
the full con cryo’s CC?
btw, i can hit high evasion archers since i got very good accuracy gear and i got a good amount of dex
never had any problems vs archers.
corsair and dragoon are simply the best choices for rank 7 for that build.

It was probably a STR type archer. You need a little bit of research on how to proc DOV without you getting hit.

There is no way you can 1 shot a full con Cryo, So does a High evasion Archer. Because your High Str Cata will die before you get close to an Ancher.

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i have beaten enough high dex archers, because i ahve a good dex amount and good accuracy gear
it really isn’t that hard to get.
Dragoon got 4 damaging skills
corsair got rank 10 CC
im sorry its just better than doppel.

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fully enchanced bandit glove with double lvl 6 green gems and my dex
i can get around 700-800 accuracy
in my experience its enough to hit every single swordsman, and to hit high evasion archers 60-70% of the time. (enough to kill them rush will probably kill all of them got low hp)

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Show a video you hitting a Full Evasion Archer. Somewhere around 1.5k+ fully buff. Because youre the one claiming you can hit using your gears. Assuming that archer will not fight and kill you.

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you realize that rush+restrain stun lock them right? they probably won’t have a chance to fight me.
camouflage sux btw, thats not a good skill you can still stun lock them.

Even if you go full dex you can 1 combo them using bash-EW-Doompike, if your rush fails.

You cant, because youll miss a lot.