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[Question] I'm making my first SW character! [Solved]

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

This would be my first and only SW class in my lineup. I wanted to make it something like this:

I have 0 practical knowledge when it comes to Swordsmen so you’ll have to forgive the lack of distributed skills. I’ve seen that R3 and R4 are normally either Highlander 1-2 OR Barbarian 1-2, Highlander seems to be more appealing but feel free to let me know if it’s not.

Stats would be something like this (no actual ratio). Is the CON too much for a dodge-y character? Should I put more STR? I expect to reach R7 at Lv225 based on my prior experiences.

The character’s purpose would be to ultimately make me my own guild (for solo use and whatnot). I will level the character pure solo (except for missions/dungeons).

I’ve made a couple of Rank 7 characters already at Class Lv15 so this is not a problem.

The character will also be easily geared with either Gladiator Bangle(s) or Sissel Braclet(s) and the obligatory Max Petamion and properly upgraded Plate gear. I’m really more worried about class synergy.

[quote]Fencer is chosen for the fluffy dress (non-negotiable).

This character will not proceed further from Rank 7 (after guild creation). I will use the character for material farming (Jolly Roger) but that’s about it.[/quote]

Deliberating this.

Swordsman experts please weigh in!

#2

The higher level your jolly roger is, the better. If you really want to keep Templar, take Fencer out of your build and go for Corsair 2 :open_mouth:

#3

Jolly Roger needs to be level 15 to farm effectively. At lvl 5 it will be quite “meh” and won’t earn much money.

I would suggest you ditch the corsair and maybe get highlander c3. It’s a pretty decent class (esp with the recent buffs to it) and it would make you level easier.

If you intend to make that character just to be a templar then ditch it, just get the strongest dps classes you can as fast as you can. You can even ditch that Peltasta (yes, screw the party members) since 90% of your time will be soloing quests instead of grinding (you won’t even go up to lvl 280, right?).

I would suggest highlander c3, barb c1, fencer c1. It would make a nice dps combo even with Templar gimping it hard.

#4

Thank you for your input @Anarth, can you lay out an example of how you would distribute the skills for that kind of character? Also, HL or Barb? :stuck_out_tongue:

@mrshadowccg Thank you as well for your input. Would Level 5 and Level 10/15 JR be that much different for “Pillaging” (mats/assorted stuff)? That’s mostly what I wanted to get out of the class. Otherwise I might just go for your deeps-all-the-way suggestion :smiley:

Lastly, how about I just got Corsair C2 (no Fencer) then Templar? Would it still work, what do I get instead if I ditch Peltasta?

#5

Honestly I’m not sure exactly how much silver lvl 10 Jolly Roger would get you, but I can tell you that a lvl 15 Jolly Roger nets me 100k extra silver in a 145 dungeon run (for a total of around 400k silver per run) or around 80k silver for an hour grind in Maven with a party sharing silvers with everyone.

I don’t see Jolly Roger as an awesome silver farming tool, though. I think a class that can solo the 145 dg fast will always make silvers faster than killing bees or w/e with Jolly Roger. Corsairs are also more pvp oriented than pvm.

My own templar is a peltasta 1 barbarian 3 doppel 1 build. My concept of templar is just to get rank 7 as fast as you can and then you can retire and become a farmer for the rest of your life. I kind of regret having gotten Peltasta with that character since I barely partied to grind and while questing Swash Buckling wasn’t that useful.

I personally would go for the highlander 3 barb 1 fencer 1 route. I really like the highlander 3 barbarian 1 combo for Cleave’s 50% more slash damage debuff and Skull Swing. Maybe doppel would work slightly better with that build since doppels are more offensive-oriented than fencers (and cyclone is really powerful with Cleave), but if you enjoy fencer, why not make one along the way (since you’re going to ditch the char anyways).

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#6

Perfect, seems like something I’d do haha! And yes, I would like to use the Corsair part just to get the occasional chance to “steal”, for example, a Honeymeli Stinger (not so much for the silver).

How about I make it SW - High3 - Cor1 (just for that sweet sweet chance at randomly stealing an item) - Fencer - Templar. Since after I’m through reaching R7, the combo of H3-Barb1 won’t be of much use right? Am I losing too much DPS from it? Also, how do I distribute the skills? (simply no idea on this).

#7

Would you consider the spear variant of your build?

Sword -> Pelt -> Hop -> Hop -> Corsair -> Corsair -> Templar?

#8

Enticing, I like how it could possibly progress (god forbid I get it to R8), but doesn’t Hoplite require a specific 1H Spear to be effective?

To all, my responses are quick as I’m currently online right now, Class Lv15 and just staring at the Advancement window :sweat:

#9

The hoplite variant contains more firepower compared to its sword variant thanks to spear lunge, which works extremely well with hexen dropper. Of course I`m assuming that you are ditching Fencer.

I honestly do not like Fencer C1 builds…

#10

Well, the thing with Jolly Roger is… If you kill a monster too fast (in only a few hits) it won’t really trigger Pillaging much. I don’t find JR that useful for hunting low level mats since:

1 - You will need to actually waste time to put the flag down on every mob you find (and sometimes bear with skill cooldown).

2 - Most of those monsters die in a few hits or 1 skill.

Honeymelis may not die that quickly thus make the pirate flag slightly more important, but I would rather farm with my scout 3 to kill stuff faster and get those materials maybe just as fast.

#11

@Anarth Urghh so good, my brain is melting… :dizzy_face:

@mrshadowccg Okay, I think I can let go of Corsair altogether at this point, I feel that it’s a 3 or none class if that’s the case.

Can I combine both your suggested builds into this instead:

Swordsman - Peltasta - Hoplite 2 - XXX - Fencer 3

or Swordsman - Highlander 3 - Barbarian - Fencer 3

Does it even make sense synergy wise? Weapon swapping a thing for this?

There, I decided making a guild is pretty much something I can hold off and I can commit to get it to R8.

EDIT: You know what, I’ll ditch Templar altogether at this point.

#12

Well most people will actually advise you away from Corsair c3 :joy:
I think it’s more of a pvp class, not a matter of just going c2.

Hoplite doesn’t fit Fencer. Fencers use rapiers and hoplites uses spears. Even though both are pierce attacks, you’ll have to switch weapons to benefit from spear lunge and you won’t be able to use Finestra with rapiers.

Both Highlander 3 barb 1 or Peltasta Barb 3 fits Fencers better imo.

EDIT:
Well, if you give up on templar, probably better you take peltasta c1 since you’ll have to eventually grind a lot to get to rank 8 and beyond. Fencers are also very tankish so peltastas fit them nicely.

#13

Damn, what have I gotten myself into. :sweat_smile:
I tried to look into it further, seems like the

Swordsman - Peltasta - Barbarian 3 - Fencer 2 (R7)

appeals to me a lot.

Can I humbly request a copy of the skill distribution and stat distribution for that build? Thank you very much for your time and effort!

@Anarth I will use the Swordsman - Peltasta - Hoplite 2 - Corsair 2 - Templar for a separate character instead. I gave up on incorporating them altogether (Corsair-Fencer-Templar). Thank you for this as well! :smiley:

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#14

Hoplite Corsair is a great pvp character too :wink:

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#15

I am fully committed to never stepping foot into any PvP content :smiley:

That said, may I also request a draft of the skill and stat distribution for this build (for PvE).

I am now deliberating on which character I’ll make first. I did purchase an extra character slot at this point though :sunny:

BTW, I have a Synchro Thrusting Gem on hand, is this useful?

#16

If you dont want to Pvp here http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/izczqhthp6/

#17

Oooh that’s an interesting take, now that you mention it, since I’ll give up on combo-ing the three classes, this might just be a good PvE character for Fencer. What exactly am I looking at though (no offense, I really have no idea about what skills weigh more for SW builds). :persevere: What I mean is I already took Lv3 Bash >.< should I reroll now (it’s only a Lv16 character), what does Restrain do for Bosses (does it work on them?).

#18

If you took lvl 3 bash just put 12 pts into concentrate

#19

I don’t see swordman c3 being that useful for pvm in a fencer build…

Even if Concentrate got buffed up, it still gives bonus damage (and not phys atk) and Pain Barrier can now be replaced by the grazing golem card…

Restrain is also very pvp oriented and no, it will not work on bosses.

#20

So no no then? :disappointed_relieved:

Enlighten me on how to distribute the core skills for the build you suggested for me - Swordsman - Peltasta - Barbarian 3 - Fencer 2 (R7) puuuuhlease :upside_down: