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Question/advise for my two separate (wugu and scout) archer builds

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Good day. So i have two archers and i’m not very sure what future class i’ll take for both. So these are my current build and thoughts:

(a) Archer C3 Wugushi C2 Falconer C1 [level 196]
*** for rank 7 and 8, I’m thinking of going wugushi c3 and then mergen; OR let wugushi stay at c2 and take two circles of cannoneer or 2 more circles of falconer.

THOUGHTS:
My current stat is 154 str and 207 dex, and my stats from now on will be all dex. I know that poison scales on str, but I’m planning on investing on high level red gems and good equips to compensate for that. I want to go dex because when my wugu skills are in cd, I want my other skills or auto attack to crit. I actually don’t have kneeling shot (my mistake) and the reason my stats and skills are like is because my build used to be heavy on str; it’s an old character from last year (I’ve quit TOS for 5/6 months) ; before they buffed gem and headgear stats and introduced transcendence. I may also decide to use skill reset in the future to get kneeling shot which will improve the damage of my poison ticks accordingly with my dex stats. Also, if you have other rank 7 and 8 classes in mind for my build, feel free to share your thoughts.

(b) Archer C3 Scout C1 going Scout C3
*** for rank 7 and 8, I’m thinking of going cannoneer C2 or falconer C1 and mergen C1; or maybe hackapell/SR??

THOUGHTS:
My stats for this is full dex and I also have max kneeling shot. This character is mainly for fast farming of silver in dungeon runs (dun 145 or 130). I’ve red somewhere that after using scout’s flare shot, I could use kneeling shot to increase its damage. I’m thinking of cannoneer because it has synergy with kneeling shot, and it have more aoe. Falc + mergen, on the other hand would give me circling and high damaging skills from mergen. Please share your thoughts on this. And if you have other classes in mind aside from my initial choices, then feel free to share your ideas.

#2

after using flareshot, i usually kiting the mobs so they always step on my flareshot, have no time to kneeling shot and be a sitting duck. steady aim is better option to increase flare shot damage.
because you said your scout is for farming silver in dungeon 145, go pick SR3 then

#3

SR3? Getting SR3 means that i won’t get the third circle of scout, which have the split shot the most important skill for fast farming is it not? Or maybe you mean SR C2? Also, flare shot with kneeling shot is intended for bosses i suppose.

#4

oh right, sorry. 1 circle of SR or hakka will boost your clearing speed of dungeon 145. I will try kneeling shot+flareshot 5 hour from now

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#5

dex wugu
archer3/archer2ranger1 > wugu3 > falcon > mergen
cookie cutter

full str wugu
archer2ranger1 > wugu3 > rogue > mergen
rogue fix cri rate, feint+barrage, capture but you are missing falcon

scout3
falcon-mergen is best r7-r8 when playing as main char
sr-hack best r7-r8 for farming 145

**most physical build go dex ultil reach cri rate cap then str or con or even more dex
patk/cri atk is easy to get from gem/upgrade/trans/headgear
cri rate is harder to get from item, so just get it from dex stat

except a build that rely on rogue’s sneak hit could go str
or wugu that doesn’t cri (i still prefer dex build for wugu)

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#6

Thank you very much for your inputs. Anways, I have some questions with your reply. What’s the crit rate cap for archers? And if you have any idea, how exactly do we calculate the actual critical chance? If you have a formula, it would help a lot :slight_smile:

So for my farming scout, SR C1 and hackapell is better than let’s say SR C2? Or cannoneer c2? Can you expound on that. Thank you.

#7

Thank you so much. So having hacka is better than 2 circles of SR? Can you tell me what’s the synergy of hacka with scout build? Can we use skills while mounted?

#8

cri chance = 42x(your cri rate - mob’s cri resist)/your level
archer2 give u 25% cri rate
and many buff from party (chrono quicken, priest monstrance)
some build that make for party setup could reach cap easier with those buff
they don’t need to reach by their own, (more than 100% waste and evasion have cap)
a solo farming char need more cri rate coz you are not always in party

u need to adjust your stat by yourself depend on item, situation
(sissel/phada give diff stat, using card, other)

sr1 give you retreat shot and mount(move faster)
hack give you mount and sprint (move faaaaasteeer)

#9

Thank you. So what do you think is the optimal goal crit chance (not considering the gears) that I should pursue so that I won’t waste any more stat points on dex? about 80? 85? And with gears, about 90 or 95?

SR and Hacka seems good on my scout, but will I be able to use scout skills like flare shot or split arrow while mounted? While I’m at it, I might as well ask you what do you think is the best first skill to use after using cloaking (for the +50 patk attri). Thank you very much.

#10

flareshot+kneeling shot is indeed work, it increase flareshot dmg. But a little impractical, because flareshot area is very small.
When i use kneeling shot in the center of flareshot, enemies will gather around my flareshot but my HP drain so fast because i opened up my defense,become enemies punching bag.
When i use kneeling shot far from flareshot, enemies wont step into my flareshot.
cloaking+snipe is the best combination
700+ crit rate is good at lv 330

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#11

Thank you very much for testing the skills yourself and giving your insight. Much appreciated :slight_smile:

#12

kneeling lv1 for dex wugu
kneeling give you atk from your dex

poison calculate each tick (same as flare)
use kneeling + auto attack after u finish use all poison
it will improve you dps, a bit better than just auto attack

kneeling for scout isn’t worth coz flare doesn’t deal big damage
scout mostly keep spam split than auto attack
but it fine if for lv1, u have a lot of free skill point in archer circle
wugu have many poison stack, kneeling1 is great even u doesn’t use it often

#13

based on your statement it is obviously that you are not a scout3 experienced player

To OP: many scout skill arent usable while mounting, but you still can spam split arrow

#14

And in doing fast dungeon 145 runs, the only skill I need to clear mobs is split arrow? So it is really recommended to take SRC1 and Hacka, as oppose to let’s say cannon C2 or falcon C1 and mergen? Thanks!

#15

yup, only split arrow is enough if your scout purpose is only farming dungeon 145. Btw, you can pick SR OR hakka, doesnt have to be both of them. One thing to consider, pet used up 1 char slot which could be use to make 1 lv 240 daily saalus slave. At the moment, many alts farming blessed shard is the fastest way to become rich and powerful

#16

Thank you for your reply. I actually have 8 slots. 2 slots are for pets: falcon and battle bird. My main is WL 240+ and I have 4 characters around level 200. I’m aiming to make those 4 characters level 240 also so that they can run saalus. My planned sccout is just level 79. I’m actually thinking of buying 1 more slot to create a squire for camp purposes.

#17

a3sc3falmergen is great too actually but in the end it is faster to spam aplit arrow than gathering mobs+circling+homing arrow

#18

i don’t play scout3 myself

i leech exp in dg145 and what i watching is scout3 do nothing more than spam split shot

#19

thats… very insufficient and too situationally data to judge that [flareshot doesnt deal big dmg and scout mostly spam split arrow].