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Question about iDreamy variation

I have to agree. Even though I’m not pretty experienced yet I can tell that 420 is a pretty low crit rate.

Isn’t something around 700+ what you need for reliable crits?

Make sure if people advice you that they actually have the builds themselves, if not don’t even bother lessening to them.

nah, 700+ crit rate is aiming for 100% crit rate, too reliable

I crit about half? of the time. Keep in mind I did spent a lot on crit rate gears and green gems.

Additionally, you have sneak hit to supplement this.

What are you talking about? :ghost:
420 seems like a pretty high crit to me.

@andyrt_23 How can anything be too reliable?

Well, I personally don’t think that something around 50% crit rate would be ‘high’. I myself wouldn’t settle with anything lower than 90~95% in general or 80~90% with Rogue.
But that’s me, you don’t have to agree with that.

I think his “too reliable” mean 95-100% vs high crit resist mob, but may over crit rate vs other mob, well crit chance goal is personal preference.

Ps. Quadruple stockade ( 2stocakde+2 from capture) that you mentioned in the first post can deal nice dmg, but the problem is capture 3min CD if you compare to fient which has 25s CD

Ah, now that does make more sense.

And thanks for taking us back to topic.
The 3 min cooldown you mention is a good point. Against field monsters that probably would be a problem, but do we need quadruple Stocade against field mobs anyway?

And for bosses, do you know some calculations that could help in comparing quad Stocade to Feint+Barrage in a prolonged boss fight?
Or even better were you able to test it in the past?

how is your pure STR SR2 performance? too glass cannon? i want to make pure STR too, but the thought of reattaching lv7-8 green gems to the next BiS weapon and lack of evasion is holding me back. It seems too gear&gems dependant. Please enlighten my pure STR path, sensei!

700 is in order to get 100% crit at rank 8 lvl 330,
i’d say anything above 500 is great.

i wouldn’t make any archer pure str.
Unlike chars like peltasta hoplites who can go full str because of peltasta’s swashbulk and wizards who can go full con because high base damage, archers will not survive with investing only into 1 stat,
if you go str, you gonna need at least 50-70 con. (i’d aim towards 70 since you go str)
now going full str will not make you stronger necessarily,
but for a budget build, going high on str is smart because full dex builds, who outscale full str at rank 8 for sure, still require tons of expensive gear.
Generally i’d go for a str build on an archer only if you really cannot afford buying gear in the near future,

buying gear is affordable, getting lv 7-10 green gems is hard, whether enhancing it myself or buy it from market. even if i got them, i doubt i will attach it to lv 330 weapon because this game is still under development and there will be the next BiS weapon.
so, high dex or high str is better for archer? my first char has 135 DEX and he got hit a lot

I did a full STR SR build fully knowing I had a stat reset potion for R8.

My thoughts?

  1. You’re gonna have to spend a fortune on crit rate gear such as manamana sissel

  2. The main appeal of high str is block pen which is rendered ineffective by ET hogma’s regardless ( I get blocked a lot still)

  3. No survivability but is helped by the fact that SR skills are fairly long range and retreat hitstuns some mobs

  4. Going to rely on fulldraw and heavy shot a lot especially in higher level maps

  5. One advantage is SR skills have fairly low base damage so str helps a lot (hybrid builds will help this)

  6. With the current state of weapon scaling and weapons, dex will be a superior choice in the long run

135 dex isn’t the same as full dex and evasion builds
imo dex is better for archers.[quote=“Nukella, post:33, topic:326622”]
With the current state of weapon scaling and weapons, dex will be a superior choice in the long run
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this. and also evasion is amazing my archer got more than 1k with swift step literally nothing physical hits me

Reoll to Full Dex Wugushi 3 please <3

will do. Thanks for the advice

Don’t go full DEX! please!

Now that the Str/Dex discussion is done here aswell, could we get back to topic?

Tanks

i think here’s the preview of your build

Can’t really test this myself I’m have a sapper without rogue. Have a rogue friend, but His build doesn’t have sapper or ranger either.
Can only theorycraft
Stockade is 3 hit & 2 overheat every 30sec
So in3min stockade can do 3x12 hit+ 3x2 hit from capture = 42 hit
Fient+ barrage I heard that can use shotgun can hit up to10 times
Fient has 25 cd
So in 3 min you can do about 5feint and with barrage has 3overheat this might upto 15combo if every arrow hit that mean 15x10 =150time.

Correct me if something in this theorycraft wrong.