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PvP/GvG Archer build

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Hey everyone, I’m planning to build an archer for PvP (and GvG - looking forward to the day it gets here).

This is the build I’m meaning to make right now:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/mue1xizqts/

My reasoning for it would be archer 2 for the crit/evasion buff and heavy shot/full drawn for a little control. Sapper 2 for broom trap area damage, and tower defending with invisible traps (many of them have nice disabling/control function). Then scout for invisibility and mov speed, rogue for for capturing either enemies’ stuff or doing a double broom trap burst + sneak hit for invisible backside burst.

Another option i’m considering would be exchanging archer 2 for the extra burst from ranger’s 1 barrage (with rogue’s feint) and Steady Aim + musk skills:

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/mdb9cfkz4q/

The last rank is the one i’m mostly conflicted about. I’ve planned the build around musketeer for targetting specific annoying targets whenever needed and some overall damage at range with all the skills.

So what’s you guys opinion on this planned build? Anyone actually have some musketeer experience to share so I can actually decide how viable it might be?

Thanks in advance

#2

Oh yeah, how about stats distribution? Is there some kind of consensus on how much HP an archer needs for pvp/gvg?

#3

I think archer c2 is better than ranger c1 , i dont know muskeeter class its probably better for dex builds ( im not sure about this) and for HP doesnt really matter magic missles will rape you but standard ~12.5k hp enough for pve/pvp. Again its my opinion.

#4

Thanks for your input, and yeah magic damage is a big problem. But that’s also why having HP is pretty much the only effective way to resit it a bit, so it’s always troublesome to define how much CON to give an archer.

#5

I think the 1st one is better as having Ranger would mean more skills to use/setup, but doing so also creates a dilemma since Sneak Hit kinda makes Swift Step’s crit attribute obsolete specially when you’re build around proper positioning and not just spamming skills.

#6

Well, ranger adds pretty much barrage as a skill and steady aim as a buff before Musk skills (whenever available). I’m not too concerned about the setup part of it cause both feint on targets (before barrage) and steady aim can be used while invisible without breaking cloaking.

My main concern about dropping Archer 2 for ranger is actually how important heavy shot and swift step attribute might be in PvP and GvG.

#7

Both build is avaible. Muskeeter class that i do not know as i mentioned before. Con gives the less hp for archer class thats the biggest problem so its not worth to invest in to much. I have an archer2-sapper2-rouge-scout-cannoneer by the way for pvp but not tested out in pvp just a few freindly duel.

#8

So how are you doing with that build in duels so far? If you don’t mind sharing what lead you to choose cannoneer over musketeer, it’d also be much appreciated.

#9

Sure i can share my experience but again its not a big experience so a few things im only duel once whit similar lvl as me against a swordman but im sure she has pve build also pve classes, after that duel whit a high lvl chrono3 wiz(+100lvl above me) probably full con full supp build avaible for pvp too full roxona set , she dodged 99% of my attacks and skill and duel whit 3 lower lvl than (-100) at the same time cleric archer wiz they could kill me slowly if i let it but lvl difference and items matter. So thats all so far. If anyone else some intrested exp too in duel i want hear too :slight_smile: Oh and why not muskeeter for rank 7 again idont know is it good for str builds but probably both clas.s can make for str or dex build. For muskeeter i would try out an a3sq3musk , a2qs3scoutmusk or rougec2musk and get mellee skills too :), or sr+musk seems good too

#10

Nice info, thanks. There’s really not much discussion going around regarding Musketeer. Cannoneer seems to be much more famous as a R7 class for now.

If anyone else could spae us the time to share some archer PvP experience, or even your Musketeer x Cannoneer gameplay so far, it’d be great

#11

There are some threads about r7 but not much yes, by the way if you planning to make an archer my advice for skill levels: conceal lv1 is enought , claymore has the longest skill duration 55sec and conceal has 1 min so its lv1 is ok, also capture lv1 is enought too becouse its bugged or broken i dont know but lv1 is ok yet.
Edit:claymore has the longest skill duration 55sec and conceal has 1 min, well sorry but its my mistake becouse its not

#12

I have the same doubts as you. I ended up going Ranger instead of A2 because Sneak Hit makes A2’s crit rate attribute obsolete (although A2 has Heavy Shot). Ranger 1 has the Feint + Barrage combo, it’s pretty nice. Besides, it’s got Steady Aim. My only worry is with accuracy since you won’t put almost any Dex, and if you do, I don’t know exactly how many points.

About R7, I think Cannon is the most chosen class because of the switch lag; while cannon is a sub-weapon, rifles occupies both weapon slots. Other than that, Snipe is much more difficult to land than Cannon Blast. Having said that, both of your builds seem very much like mine, except for the extra points on Sapper 2,. Just like you, I’m still in doubt about my R7 class (more inclined to Cannoneer though, because of switch lag).

I hope I could help you in any way. :slight_smile:

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#13

In battle league you can’t auto switch like in pve, you have to do it manually. Keep that in mind. Either way you will end up switching weapons, rifles are not that great damage wise.

#14

I didn’t know that, it definetely makes Musketeer a much less appealing class for PvP then, given you can use pretty much all skills from these builds with a crossbow + cannon without having to switch weapons at all.

So far it seems the archer-ranger build has more pros than the archer 2 one, and ending it with Cannoneer instead of Musketeer might make your life easier in PvP as well.

#15

I dont know how works weapon swap in battle leauge cuz itos dont have it (best move imc grat), but im using xbow+dagger and put cannon into the weapon swap window/tab or what ever it called then cannoneer skills works as autoswap but it seems not working in arena like this , its a new info for me too