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PvP cata-goon build

Zornhau has over 4000-5000% not sure exactly.
Redel 3000%+
Punish Deals crazy aoe dmg.

Dragoon has good buffs,
They just don´t have a good skill to make use of it.

Maybe imc know this and give dragoon some Attributes/stronger dmg skills on R9.

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In the last patch, manual block was reverted to its previous behaviour in PvE. Which means there is no cooldown anymore for PvE.

In the latest kToS patch (on test server), it looks like swashbuckling’s taunt effect has been significantly enhanced:

I guess the one good thing to come out of a super weak catagoon is that 2h spears are at record low prices. Just got a pevordimas pike with 2 sockets and full durability for 1.5m. Seems like value of 2h spears are dropping by the day. Maybe purine pevordimas spear will become chump change in a week or so.

kToS changes:

  1. Doom spike no longer requires charging (lawl), CD reduced to 15s from 20s
  2. Dethrone width increased by 40% (honestly this seems to me just like it’s reverting a nerf tho)
  3. Dragon soar range increased by 30% (lol needed)
  4. Steed charge ranged increased by 2.5 times (rofl need to test this)
  5. Dragon tooth cooldown reduced from 17 to 15 seconds (good i guess)

PvP related changes:

  1. Buff duration reduced to 33% of its original duration. Good, no more perma invincibility and other bullshit.
  2. Weapon trans nerfed by 50% (good, but is it enough?)
  3. crowd control effect will have diminishing effects, ie second freeze will be half as long, and useless after the 4th time
  4. moving speed increase nerfed by 50%, (trot nerfed by 50% lawlz)
  5. missile hole nerfed (?)

Mostly good changes, but this is far from enough. Catagoon is still dead I’d say especially considering the trot nerf, needs a lot more buffs to be relevant…

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Trot nerf + not any damage change => massive nerf.

Look at the Wizard change to compare … that’s disgusting.

Also the Hoplite triple dash make it worthless to take Cataphract with low damage and Trot nerfed.

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hmmm remember that “long list” i posted on may 5th? xD wonder what more we can cross off the list now lmao[quote=“ijbest, post:469, topic:302061”]
A list of things that I think should be nerfed or changed in PvP for the balance, off the top of my head, that we have right now on iToS:
[/quote]

sorry i don’t remember what happened on may 5th, it’s been awhile lol.

Nm just found it.

[quote]A list of things that I think should be nerfed or changed in PvP for the balance, off the top of my head, that we have right now on iToS:

  1. Iron Hook :stuck_out_tongue:
  2. Raise
  3. Revenged Sevenfold
  4. Full Draw
  5. Stone Shot
  6. Broad Head
  7. Poisons
  8. Restrain
  9. Rush
  10. Coursing
  11. Shield C block
  12. Ausrine
  13. Missile Hole
  14. Magnetic Force
  15. Subzero Shield
  16. Long CC chaining
  17. Cloaking
  18. Marching Fire
  19. Hanging Shot
  20. Levitation
  21. Damage
  22. Stone Skin
  23. Revive
  24. Pear of Anguish
  25. Prophecy
  26. Death Sentence
  27. One Inch Punch
  28. Joint Penalty
  29. Installation durations
  30. Gohei
  31. Frost Pillar
  32. Sleep
  33. Stop
  34. Telepath
  35. Camoflage
  36. Telekinesis
  37. Impaler
  38. Dark Theurge
    [/quote]

Looks like we can mark off lots of stuff lol.

In addition to the CC chain nerf, iron hook will be fixed to max duration of 10 sec (lets hope for 5 sec next) :P, Ein Sof hp increase reduced by half, hp from Heal nerfed to half too lol

Can’t believe i forgot to put Heals and Ein Sof on my 1st list lol, oh well… still so far so good, making nice progress.

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Make iron hook 5 secs but make it auto-connect with your target and I will bite!

Well guys, looks like soon we’ll be able to cross Revenged sevenfold off my list xD
Duration will get changed to 7 seconds
heal CD will also get changed to 50 sec xD

They’re slowly getting there, can’t wait to see what happens next lol

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Waiting for the “cleric too weak quitting tos” threads, but that wont happen they will probably just get some unmentioned super buffs to compensate. :stuck_out_tongue:

holy ■■■■ nerfing revenged sevenfold is a very big deal. too bad dethrone does ■■■■ damage without good weapon now

oh hey maybe then i can go back to miko. Only reason I went Kabbalist is because it is OP as ■■■■ and im not ashamed to admit it.

EDIT: for those wonder, the ktest skill planner has this for r7x:

value = 60
if PVPMode
value = 7

they’re finally implementing the good changes when PvP is completely dying lol…IMC slow as **** srsly. Happy for this change but I still think they took way too long to nerf heal and revenged 7x.

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xD yeah i know how ya feel

but bright side is, if they balance pvp and add some more pvp content lots of players will be up for it

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is steed charge worth using now? Just tried it now and the range is a lot better than before.

Haven’t been playing this game at all ever since the combat rebalance when cata-goon was gutted (build is still garbage atm), but it seems with the newest patch Dethrone has an on/off toggle for Dethrone knockback now, for what it’s worth.

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Cata still more compatible with Lancer than Goon.

Not sure if Soar is working “as described” now (launches/knocks enemies in the air), but if it does then that’s a good improvement, albeit still lacking for the class as a whole.

Looks like we’re going to wait a little longer and be hopeful for circle 3.

Both those changes are pretty unsubstantial since Rush isn’t anywhere close to the PvP weapon it once was, and steed charge was completely shitty and will probably remain shitty so.

Anyways, gonna wait for Dragoon r3 first to see what’s in store for us.

I will test dragon soar when I get a chance I guess xD. Busy playing other games atm (Witcher 3, Nier Automata, I am Setsuna, Blue Reflection)

And honestly, I’m having a lot of trouble adapting to the new doomspike (always charge it up first but then realize it doesn’t need to be charged anymore, so I miss the target), might end up replacing that with steed charge to see.

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Since the patch last Tuesday introduced adventure journal rewards like stat/skill resets and a rank reset, I thought I’d reset my Murmillo into Goon2. I gave a thought for a few minutes and realized it’s still not worth it if I want to have fun. XD