Hi, I would like to know SR3 or Mergen do better at PVE in terms of farming, WB and dps?
Well, according to the Koreans, Mergen is terrible and horribly under-powered. Most Mergens were Fletcher 3s and currently cannot cube on world bosses on KTOS.
I won’t be surprised if most Fletchers reroll to SR3 in R8.
I see, if so then only need consider QS3 or R3 to SR3
but actually i heard that SR3 skill not that impressive also?
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I cant think of a thousand words off that picture as I m still new 
if you want WBs as rank 8 goes, i’d consider a swordsman actually,
but for overall pve and farming dps yea SR 3 is great
you can’t really have both a WBing build and a farming build, for a farming build you need aoe (SR got tons of aoe) but enough dps to steal a cube from dragoons and fencers probably not
but don’t worry, SR is amazing at farming and can go anywhere to places like ET and solo dungeon farms and even GVG and 5v5
as a person who play fletcher the class is strong but very underwhelming in terms of farming, and as we can see in rank 8 the korean fletchers at rank 8 seem to be weaker
you can always do a musket build if you want, you can do a scout 3 musket as a farming class
or maybe even ranger 3 archer c2 musket which might be good for world bossing.
a bit off topic, but dragoon are kind of hard to level at earlier stage… or actually have to upgrade a few of the normal equipment? the AOE of hoplite is very bad too
i see so in terms of farming SR > mergen
depends on which class you take
cataphract can be underwhelming until you get rush, but hoplites are actually pretty strong in most stages of the game the 2 best dragoon builds are hoplite 3 doppel 1 dragoon or hoplite 2 corsair 2 dragoon, not sure which 1 is stronger, but the 50% from DoV at rank 8 seems good, kinda your choice
you can also do scout 3 build but that 1 is the hardest to build, i’d stick with an SR with ranger c3 archer c2, easiest to lvl.
People like to answer this question without having actually played SR all the fkng time. On paper SR is hands down the aoe king and a great farmer, that being said IN REALITY retreat shot is by far the most clunky, akward and aggravating ability in the game. Unless you have a nearby wall to run against or you mash down your AA to slow yourself down its impossible to use half the time in an open area with any success.
ALOT of people roll SR only to reroll at 180-200 b/c they just can not get used to retreat shot and its wallwalking reality. If you need a farmer you roll a scout 3, if you need a wb cube farmer you roll a fletcher 3. SR is the aoe/ET specialist but very akward to play.
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You don’t need a wall really, retreat shot + oblique shot spam is easy and satisfactory when you do it right which is 90% of the time once you master it.
what is this retreat shot + oblique shot spam? cant find any video about it
Just use retreat shot and then spam oblique shot, your retreat shot will still work but the animation will cancel and you will walk at low speed while shoting arrows, a bit wonky to see but it works great and it’s simple to use
p.s. if they fix it it’s gonna be baaad
You should read the SR threads. Oblique shot can slow you down while using retreat shot without interrupting it unlike when using auto attacks.
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I know a few people who rerolled their SRs, but that’s only because they didn’t know how to use it, and didn’t make the effort to know how to use it. If I were to name the only thing I really dislike about Retreat shot, is that it randomly goes off after use from time to time. The skill itself isn’t hard to use and is fantastic. If you think it’s clunky, you should try to git gud instead of blaming the class
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the moment you actually typed “git gud” you announced to the community that you are an manchild, gl with that
It’s really fun to say it though. I mean, can you imagine how you’d pronounce it? It’s hilarious
Still, SR is just knowing how to press a couple keys in order. Not rocket science, really
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At rank 8, Sr3 is better than Mergen on AoE capability and dungeon farming.
Mergen would probably win at burst DPS by using Arrow Rain + Capture combo (c1 Rogue) and have high dps for WB if they were Fletcher3. Sr3 is better than non-Fletcher3 Mergen at WB if they have a supporting party consists of 1 Wiz focused on keeping the lethargy debuff and Chrono3. Mind you that both probably lose out to Dragoon 2 and Fencer 3 at WB though.
i got both fletcher 3 and scout 3
going fletcher 3 mergen for AOE FARMING means you are relying mostly on mergen skills since fletcher skills are mostly single target including magic arrow
i hate taking my fletcher to dungeons i rarely do, i just do rushes and WBs with it since its so difficult to farm with this class.
Just happy that we can now AOE farm with our Fletchers while still have good chance of getting cube from WBs. I tried solo full run with my Fletcher (cast MA and jump jump jump) and its one of the most boring task I did in TOS aside from doing quest and hunting BB.
Retreat shot is easy to use. As mentioned by others, you just spam oblique shot. It is actually very good. I can actually clear full run dungeon 145 and 130 within 15-20 mins.
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I see, and i got 1 more concern, are there many botters too at high lvl? because seems like botters are everywhere at lower lvl