Hey guys, Ryuu from telsiai here. So there’s a lot of discussions about the underpowered swordman class, and i want to share some info here.
First off, here the video to my shinobi:
In this video you can see that i used the bunshin + kunai combo, the burst is good but takes a bit of set up, otherwise if you use it carelessly you’re in for some trouble. I do not usually do this during grind but just to show what it is since its my highest burst dmg. Its more useful during bosses than grind.
This combo in the second video is still the fastest and most efficient way to grind and deal fast burst dmg.
Some of my personal views:
SOME supposedly dps Swordmen class are seriously underpowered, especially barbarian who chooses pierce type classes like dragoon or shinobi. Just one simple reason:
Barbarian do not have spear lunge which almost doubles all piercing attacks
This makes barbarian + corsair’s hexen dropper half as weak compared to hoplites hexen dropper. It also makes barbarian + shinobi’s kunai half as weak.
Now to the review of shinobi:
After seeing the pros and cons of shinobi, i truly regret going shinobi instead of dragoon.
Clone + kunai skill
As u can see from my clone+kunai video, i have already tasted the best burst dmg shinobi can give, and i can KO 130 dungeon harpiea. Having that said, the cons of this combo is too huge, you risk of getting 1 hit KO easily as well, i have never died so much before i became shinobi. Just for that one time huge burst the risk is simply not worth it.
Mokuton + katon
Mokuton is a good survival skill, katon is for invis utility, both are quite useless for PVE but can be useful for pvp.
Mijin no jutsu
This skill although stated to have high dmg value, but it will not have a higher dmg than bunshin+kunai combo, due to it not being a pierce type dmg, unable to be amplified by spear lunge. Not to mention it uses your hp.
Now lets compare to dragoon class:
With my shinobi, the only one true bread and butter skill would be kunai which without clones the dmg is pretty crap compared to my hexen dropper. You saw in my video that i used hexen first and finish off the mob with little hp with kunai, that is pretty much the use of it.
Using bunshin frequently will not be a good move since it requires the proper set up, and thus unsuitable for grind. Now, if i were to go dragoon, i could do spear lunge + 1 hexen dropper + 1 dragontooth/serpentine and kill those spiders with 130k+ hp easily.
The dmg for dragoon overtime would not lose to shinobi, furthermore, all dragoon skills has high dmg pierce skill amplifiable by spear lunge.
The highest dmg skill for dragoon gaebulg, does not have terrible debuff like bunshin, you just got to pick your spear back and not risk being 1 hit ko by literally anything.
PVP wise
Initially i thought that shinobi would be better than dragoon thanks to those invis utility skills, however, i imagined that i could do the same combos with dragoon even better in pvp. Hook + Leap + spear lunge + gaebulg/dragon tooth/hexen would still be better than one kunai skill. Perhaps shinobi has better survivability.
Overall, i’ve gotten much feedback from many players that my character has insane dmg dps, even compared to other classes like mage archers, so i believe swordsman can be dps as well but it really depends on stats and gears, builds as well. But explored my build so far, i would say the best pure dps build currenly in my opinion is:
Sword2, Hop2,Cor2,Dragoon
thanks and have a nice day. Anything you guys need just ask me.