Hello…
Thoughts, ideas and suggestions are welcome
Multi hits, Multi hits, Multi hits
Buffs, Buffs, Buffs
A lot of combos.
Incredible AoE killer.
no Cleave no DoV…
I don’t like Barbarians 
DoV is a excelent buff, but I did not get it to get powerful skills
Everybody gets DoV, I do not like common sense, I walk a different path.
In Siulai Mission, on 4 bosses I get 1st on rank almost aways with this build 
u didn’t get the imporant skills 
Which do you think are important?
Sure because you abuse the cleave from other doppel 
It just stupid not to tak Cleave +50% dmg is too much not to take it same for DoV.
Try this build and then tell me if it’s as bad as you’re saying, take advantage of the reset event
I really don’t need DoV with this buid.
I play since iCBT1, trust me. 
I’m thinking about sw3>HL2>dop3 because skull swing (debuff now is 5 sec only) and vertical slash (hard to connect in these 5 sec from SS) looks like ■■■■ now and we can have better gungho, restrain , pain barrier, concentrate and double slash (that now is a good skill and sinergizes with crosscut bleeding too)
The downside is that we get skyliner and moulinet only 5/5, need to test if the difference to 10/10 is too much
DoV , cleave , skull swing and vertical slash xD
I think our dmg was buffed up alot but don’t underestimate DoV and the other skills tho 
DoV now shines when you have a good weapon with big atk value so it gets the % in it i think
You gotta wait like a couple more months to a year before this can happen though. 
OT:
Swor3 - Barb1 - X - Dopp3
What to put in X?
Math gone wrong xD, though sw2>hl2>barb1>dop3
But i’m still in doubt about skull swing and vertical slash usage
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I tried the SW1-HL3-Barb1-Dopp3 and it was ludicrously confusing AF.
Also skull swing only lasts like 3s, you better get the good hits off during that time.
IMO not a fun build to play but may very well be worth it for people who like the challenge (so many skills).
That’s the next one I’ll try, but I don’t think getting HL1 for crit attack is worth it anymore, I made a SW3-Barb2-Dopp3 today though, it sucked >.<
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You tested with sw1>hl1>barb3>dop3?
Yeah, Barb you go 1 or 3, 2 is kinda waste
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@Acidhub no Punish?
@DiMeowgio yeah I’m coming from sw3 hl barb doppel and tried hl3 and I don’t like it.
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1 - right now multihit skills are NOT better than 1hit skills. For exsample - Redel is WEAKER than zornhau. DPM wise it is 2.5 times weaker. Don’t belove me?
Belive numbers.
Cyclone is SLOW. you need 11 second to deal full damage. and 45 seconds cd. Investing more than 3 points in it is just stupid.
Cyclone 15 has onlly deals only 1106% dps per second. And that sux.
Highlander has his OWN synergy. Like it or not - barbarian can deal more damage. Cleave + zwerchhau + warcry will give you 13 seconds of double damage for slashing attacks. That is alot. that wil syn with most doppel skills and boost their damage by 50%.
There is no reason to take 3 HL at all. We get more damage from 3 barb.
Dov 15 is a must - have. While you will lost some damage from skills overall but hey. 26 k% dpm from zornhau IS real.
Here is quality build
sw1 hl1 barb3 doppel3
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112666999.354555.253545.5a7591aab1.1f516a768691a1
5 extra points on doppel and leftover on barb you can spend to your taste, the rest is a MUST.
Only thing that is bad about that build - you will be knicked around by bosses ALOT. No PB15.
For PB15 - https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111162999.3a4f5f85.4595b5.253545.1f516a768691a1
Yes you will need double slash to fill the spot taken by seism, and sometimes you will even get more damage that way. Yet no 13 second of cleave + sturtzhau for you. But hey, noone will knock you around anymore. and some more damage from highlvl concentrate + gung ho
Thank you for this! 
I moved things around a little bit because apparently the [Get Skill to Required Level -> Learn Attribute -> Reset] trick still works. I was thinking something a little more like this (with Bash and Punish for occasional mobbing):
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111162999.21394f5f85.4595b5.253545.1f2141516a7a8191a5
Watcha think?
that trick is not working. attribute does not apply if the skill is low lvl. i tested that.
take bash 3 if you want knockdown
and zucken does more damage than sturtzhau. you will mostly use zucken after zornhau and that means that it makes even more damage than redel.
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