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Population dropping again?

Who would ever do such a thing like make a new account when their old account gets banned/muted?

It’s like there aren’t already a few experts on here who do this. Right, 63scaur? :wink:
I wonder who else…:wink:
hmmm… Atleast some of you people are kind of smart and dont use your same name again.

hmm… it makes you wonder.

Saw this awhile ago. Possibly not wrong but still very funny.
Its like he knew he got banned for something he did and wanted to make it look like he was innocent.

Blasphemous fools!

“May the devils they call upon be their end!”

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That’s why he plays Inquisitor

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:joy: :joy: He has a funny way of thinking what is “normal” christian.

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It’s important to point out that the Combat Update wasn’t a Content Update, IMC wasn’t even expecting that large of an increase in population that came. The Combat Update’s objective was to address most of the fundamental flaws, and allow IMC to create further content that could be balanced properly, which was impossible given the old system. This update was never meant for a large, long term increase in population, it alone never had the necessary ingredients for it, balance alone is far from enough, it doesn’t really matter without content.

That’s the real crux of the matter, content. The Combat Update for all of its flaws was a big step forward, and a positive thing. More classes, builds, and playstyles became viable allowing for any current content to be played, and more importantly, future content. The primary problem we’re faced with now, is a lack of content. The Gacha and Leticia cubes don’t help, but they’re far from the central issue, the existent balance problems are less severe than before, and in general, bugs, exploits, and bots have decreased, and hook64 continues to wither.

Despite all the flaws TOS has, it’s obvious that there are tons of players waiting to play, the Combat Update demonstrated that. The issue is content. We need a more varied and rewarding levelling process, less daily focused content, more equipment, accessories and items to farm for, more collectibles, gimmicks and achievements, better guild content, non-combat focused content, social content, and so much more. We really need more of everything. Players came back, but there was nothing fulfilling to do, it just wasn’t fun enough. IMC has to play catch up for their early release decision. They now have to fix legacy issues, still balance a large amount of content, create/fix content that should have been on release, and continue to release new content at a reasonable schedule. I still believe IMC has the ability to eventually complete these tasks, but it’s a time problem. They may very well make the best MMO in existence, but how long will that take? Maybe they’re just adding more padding content until R9 fixes everything, but I doubt it, R8 isn’t even finished yet. I’m very unsure of the future of TOS. IMC has shown a fair amount of potential in the past few months with the Combat Update, the events, communication improvements (some of which is soon to come), but they also demonstrated recurring problems that have yet to be addressed, like the DPK exploit, still not enough communication, and contextually slow content release, (as in content for the past and next fews months will be at a decent speed, but compared to what’s needed not enough), along with new balance problems albeit fewer balance problems.

IMC must improve further, and must communicate with us more. This isn’t an ITOS issue, it’s a TOS issue.

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100% agreed with this, and most of the stuff its already implemented but outdated, i remember when the beta started i was soo happy exploring the maps and completing collections but now i couldnt care less. There are features of the game that could improve to give us something else to do. Currently.
1.- Collection system bonuses are a total joke, they need to update them to match the current changes and make them more useful than they actually are. Collection system was a cool feautre but it got outdated very soon and was forgotten to the point even the new collections are lackluster. Hardcore players like me still care about this, but most players tend to dont even care at all.

2.- Map exploration should be more rewarding, gimmicks were a good idea but most players dont care about them, heck most of them dont even know how they work lol. The reward in cards its ok, but i think we need something else that makes us care about going to explore all areas, TOS world its actually pretty beautiful, its sad most people dont know how beautiful could be since all they care its about having warps to maps with dungeons and dailys.

3.- Guild content, oh my god i dont know where to start with this one, guild events are so lackluster, the rewards are beyond bad, at least they could make them give talts to selfsustain the guild but instead of that we got crappy potions that non PVP players dont even care about, on top of that the reused bosses just ruin it completely.

4.- Creative instances, insntaces are 100% linear in TOS, basically kill all the mobs fight the boss. With all the cool stuff that we can do in TOS world, why not make creative and fun dungeons? and i mean, alternative dungeons, places where to farm enchant scrolls, gem abrasives, glowing awakening stones, dungeon multipliers, tomes and maybe other useful stuff that its actually useful for players. Honestly, its not a big lose if people dont buy this stuff with TP you know why? because if people its happy in a game its more likely that they will spent their money in it, in TOS they try to milk money of people with almost everything, even trades… should be the other way around.

5.- Achievements are cool but most players dont care about titles, why not give us cool stuff as a reward for achievements?, titles are ok an all but they have no real use in game, im sure people care about the ones that give you different color style and that’s it. At least make titles give some non-combat bonuses so we can care about getting them :/.

I love TOS, but the lack of content cant be denied, they cant be seriously expecting us to play only to farm 100% of the time without any real use of the stuff we are trying to get.

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By the time they finish fixing all the flaws it would be 2030. So far KTOS had a cheap world boss ‘update’ and afk fishing that boosts artificial population numbers. That’s all in new content since combat update.

The pace is simply too slow and tos will never be the game people here wants it to be.

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imc no able afford new servers or devs ppl plz stop say bad thing dey only can mod forum. if u ban errybody den all is good and keep #FFFFFF on forums background until mobile an it work i promise u kay kay? kekeke

u no complain here an just play all fine eat ur tomes and reset wheaties make u strong boi pvp long time n gacha for anvils u b guud.

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Well I was banned for hate speech although I didn’t even drop one evil word in that case (it’s just that the lobby of a certain special interest group seemed to be offended by criticism against their mental attitude).
I just argued based on the logic that the great mentors and philosophers of The Enlightenment tried to convey to the people.

C. Post that may restrict your account

-Post that may further lead to restriction of your account when seen by forum admin or reported by users

a. Sexual or discriminating contents

b. Advertisements not related to Tree of Savior

c. Topics posted by hacking other people’s accounts

d. Post for abusing the point system

e. Posts impersonating and misrepresenting forum admins
(This includes the use of IMC Games logo and using STAFF_ before username)

f. Posts with abusive language
-when continuously seen or reported

Prove me that I did anything of the things up there before calling me a liar.

If the people of the Staff feel offended by logic and philosophy, it’s not my fault that I got banned but the subjective discrimination against my person.
So why should I even try to change my name? I’ve done nothing wrong and I can even cite the passages from Jean-Jaques Rousseaus works if proof is necessary that I argued based on logic.

And by the way, I really wasn’t notified nor did the website show me anything that I was banned, that’s why I opened up that post. Could’ve been an error due to the website changes and/or some interaction with my Firefox plugins like Ghostery,Noscript,Adblock Plus,etc.

Noone in their right mind would’ve thought to be banned right off the bat if they didn’t break the rules after all :slight_smile:

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Latest steam chart:

-19% so far.

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This is gonna be the same as the previous population dropping thread. As in it will disappear S soon as the population goes up.

It won’t go up again unless the game gets something to do like proper GvG without crashing. Rank 9 isn’t going to boost it because it’s still the same boring no endgame problem.

They said that about the rank resets and balance over haul. What will happen is we will get some major new content. Pop will rise then a month or so later go back down until next major change.its been the pattern for a while. These threads seem to only pop when the population starts to lower though.

Nope. The thread will really disappear because it will be force shut down in 24 days.

The other thread also got closed by imc before 10k replies.

-Everyone

Does it really matter if the population is dropping? All we got this past week is cash notes not patch notes. We currently dont have the summoner patch.

Barely anyone spends tp for token which is reaaaaaaaaally crippling. I guess that is the culprit for the recent population drop.

People needs token. How can you have token when there are no players buying it from the tp shop? We got more 330 toons instead but we got no upkeep now.

There is also literally nothing to do. Do 140,170 run or 290 rush. Do saalus. That’s it. Still waiting for rank 9 though.

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IMC, let us give TP via present! And sell hair styles! Color lenses!

IMC, stop selling gachas!

IMC, hire more people!

IMC, stop giving content to bots!

IMC, play your own game to know better what to fix!!

Actually IMC:

Just sell the game already!!

G r a c i a s


¯_(ツ)_/¯

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The afk fishing won’t save the game, what are they thinking

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Ragnarok RE:Start. That is all I am going to say!

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I wonder what happens in IMC’s HQ… Like…

Leticia Cube First Edition: “Well that sucks…” *Looks at Forums "Nah… They’ll probably read those threads and won’t sell Gachas anymore by how people are reacting to it"
Leticia Cube Second Edition: "Serious IMC? Sigh I guess this might be the last one, I mean, look at those threads… Some Staff must be reading this"
Reading patch notes: Leticia Cube Third Edition "Well ■■■■ you IMC

They’re either shitting on our heads propositaly or just don’t care about what we think and say here… I wonder if they even test (play) their own game, like, put a staff to play in a NEW account and roll from 1 to 330… Do they read our threads or noticed that the game is way too easy in a point that makes us fall asleep while grinding? I don’t thnk they do any of this.

Can’t wait for the Leticia Cube Fourth Edition e.e </3

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Its not like they do even listen to the community in the first place LMAO, we all know they dont.

No tokens in Orsha for weeks now, and seems like too many people are skipping this leticia cube as well.

I love you :heart_eyes:

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Well albion went live yesterday, so I’m expecting an even bigger drop.

The page on steam is already shut down (or is it region related ?).

The game is still buy to play and a lot of old players are leaving this game. I hope if people are leaving ToS, they don’t leave it to play a buy to play + subscription game lol.