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Population dropping again?

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#143

Why? o.O

I would prefer a b2p or a p2p game but there all not what i want to play.

I dont like the way this game goes.
R8 Content was HARD at release now its a cakewalk.
Why should i spend money/time on attributes better weapon/armor if the game is so easy that you can wear cafriset + a random blue 170+ weapon to clear all content beside et.

Pvp is chaos thats all if you dont have the right cls in your team you just f***ed.
Still hard fps drops with over 10 ppl on screen.

Even if you got all your gear on trans 5+ what will you do with this gear?
Theres just nothing to do and instead of fixing this things we get things like fishing and more stupid costumes.
Oh yeah greatā€¦

When i start the game i realy like all the maps (everything between klai/orsha/fedi) thats all wasted.
Nobody will go there now why waste your time there if you can just lvl up to max lvl in one day as new player?

I like the combat changes but they make this game so stupid easy that its no fun anymore.
And i dont think this will changeā€¦

Beside with all of this non plot costumes this game feels more like a h-game xD
I mean come on a young girl in short school uniform swings a huge sword against evil demons?

I guess i go back to ro soon ā€¦

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#144

Yes, they overdid the readjustment of the monster-difficulty a bit. But this is just a matter of monster stats I think, the combat-system overhaul was well made. I expect the R9 content to get harder, and when you take into account the game is thought to get to lvl 600, then we are not that bad with the current difficulty at ~50% of lvl content.

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#145

Considering how long it has taken them for each level cap raise so far. Weā€™ll maybe see the last 50% in 2024 :whitepopolion:

#146

Me too, but Albion is a buy to play + subscribtion (you can ā€œplayā€ without subscribtion but reviews are all the same about it : you are forced to play with sub). I would buy a MMORPG if itā€™s worth playing, Iā€™m sorry but I donā€™t understand why Albion is b2p, GW2 is a b2p too but the amount of work they needed to release this game is really far from Albion (at least you can say GW2 extension is too expensive for the tiny content itā€™s adding). If ToS was b2p I would buy it if all features in game were the same for everyone and if they were able to sell it almost unbugged. Dreams.

#147

After reading that both the basic armor defence values of plate and cloth armor will be drastically increased, I think it will be rather getting more and more easy to run through the game with little to no investment.

That level 315 plate upper armor has ~doubled base defence and ~1,5 times the enhancement value.
I donā€™t know how this will make the game any harder unless they drastically increase the base damage of monsters as well, which would be heavily punishing for people not wearing the corresponding armor type to tank the attack.

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#148

Well, ToS was planed as a Buy 2 Play game, for realā€¦ Idk why the F* they decided F2P would be better, I mean, EVERY SINGLE MMORPG LOVER WAS HYPED AF for this game (even more because of Ragnarok), and they all met ToS during the CBTs, I remember that, and Day1 had 35 thousand people playing.
So letā€™s think about that:
If ToS was a B2P game like it was planed to be, there wouldnā€™t be Tokens, cuz theyā€™re the IMCā€™s (fail) method against Bots, Account Spam and RMT, and these kind of people would had to pay for the game after every single ban theyā€™d take. The company would get a lot (A LOT) of money, which would improve their work rate (patches, GM surveilance, bug fixes, content added, etc) and investment in the game, and if this Gacha cube thing is their way of getting quick money - cuz theyā€™re probably deseperately for it - I think it wouldnā€™t be happeningā€¦ Sigh I still love this game, tho T-T<3

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#149

MMOs are a constant work in progress. Paying for the game isnā€™t a viable option.

Donā€™t think you can outsmart a dev company. If they went that route, iā€™m sure it was the most profitable route they could get.

Think for a while. All mmo games are never finished. Itā€™s always growing. Bugs are always being patched, new bugs are always being introduced. Balance is always changing. New maps, classes, characters, costumes, is always being added.

If you pay for a MMO only a single time, it is sure a huge profit on the beginning, but it will be a huge loss in the long term.

By so, the game wouldnā€™t be new neither interesting, increased competition by newer games, and lots of stuff. For a MMO to survive, it needs the whales that are willing to spend huge aumont of money on F2P models.

Things are the way they are for a reason, my friend. 1 whale gives much more money to IMC than, lets say, 100 one time buyers.

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#150
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#151

I played this game before, then I quit it. Now I occasionally (once every 3 months?) just check web site to see if there any rank resets. So far I saw one, but it was time limited, thus I wasnā€™t able to use it. Nor Iā€™m interested in grinding all levels from level 1.

Unless IMC implements a normal non-timed rank reset I wonā€™t play this game. Thus population will be always at least -1. IMC will implement free, non-timed rank reset so I could finally use it? Iā€™ll give game another try.

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#152

I agree. Well if the game was B2P then there wouldnā€™t be so many people playing on day 1, but over time, it may be less P2W than it is right now.

The P2W is a big issue that will continue to get worse as the population drops further.

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#153

i have quit TOS and now logging on only to sell my items, updating market price, etc. i will be gone for good in less than a few weeks as soon as big stuff is taken care of.

as for p2p model i am going into ff14 along w my rl friends and i now see the difference in quality of service, server uptimes/stability, and how polished the game is. p2p isnt something tos can pull off lol no way.

i predict this game close its servers after it fails rank9. remaining player base that is patiently waiting for r9 will lose it at that point. if it isnt already closed it will be heavily p2w and sustain on only handful of paying players.

i believe this will be one of my very last forums posts for tos.
i wish everyone best of luck w whatever in life!

AlphApex

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#154

I think the problem is they hyped up this rebalance patch, but in fact the rebalance patch did NOT balance the classes in any wayā€¦so now weā€™re all waiting to see how badly the PvP rebalance will failā€¦

It didnā€™t help that the so called ā€œrebalance patchā€ brought with it more P2W elements making an already P2W game, even more P2W.

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#155

Just waiting imc redo the buffs system and put some anti cheat to come back to play again.

No matter how much new content they launch, as long as the recurring complaints that come from the beginning of server arent met, the player base will always fall.

#157

Itā€™s on a downward spiral right now for sure.

All eyes on the PvP rebalanceā€¦

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#158

The pop is droped to pre Patch niveau lol
Even lower it seems.

It was funny for a short time but still no endgame content is no endgame content ~.~
IĀ“m back at playing ro the grind at least have a pupose not like in tos :smiley:

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#159

No token sellers
No rank 9

My last fuse will be if they really nerf blessing.

I will also insta quit if the nerf blessing patch comes first before summoning patch. Why im overreacting? BECAUSE BLESSING AUTO ATTACK IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF DAMAGE OF MY MOTHERFUCKING SORCERER NECROMANCER. YOU MOTHERFUCKING GET WHAT I MEAN IMC.

WAITING FOR SUMMONING PATCH EVERY SINGLE MOTHERFUCKING WEEK. IM OUT OF PATIENCE THATā€™S WHY IM ON HIATUS.

YOU ALSO SLAP US WITH GODLIKE EVENT FOR NEW PLAYERS (WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY ALTS FROM OLD PLAYERS) AND DISRESPECT THE EVENT FOR ACTIVE OLD PLAYERS.

WE ARE SICK OF YOUR COPY PASTED EMPATHY STATEMENT IMC. SO SICK OF IT.

Well bear with me peeps. Got to let out my frustration. Went on hiatus because im sick waiting each week for fail promises. I wont be surprised if nerf blessing patch comes 1st before summoner patch in iTOS.

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#161

@63scaur @RoastedPeanuts

The staff is watching. Posts get deleted. Maybe iā€™ve dived too much. Iā€™ll go on hiatus on tree of forums too then. kek

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#162

Dont worry they cant know how to delete postsā€¦They must wai korean devs to do thatā€¦

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#163

Each day that passes is harder to play ā€¦ Iā€™m seriously trying to imc, but you do not collaborate ā€¦ I only enter for salus now with 3 chars and quit, no more than 30min a day to play.

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#164

They delete a post about 5 necromancers queued for dungeon, thatā€™s it. Uncomfortable truths i guess. This topic will automatically close in 17 days anyway.