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Player buying items through RMT

Well, he already confessed that it was him and that he did conduct RMT so what’s your point? Besides, no editing was done from those images.

Also, who are you to judge what’s acceptable evidence or not? You can clearly see when you post that you need to put either a screenshot or video as evidence.

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Aren’t you a RMTer too Justin Santos?

well yea it can be edited but he just confessed and cried about it LOL so he really did buy via RMT and he deserves a ban

They cannot ban all RMTs. But they should ban those that are proven. That is not unfair. That is their job. That is how the system works.

The guilty must be sanctioned :O. Fair and simple. What’s unfair is if you get banned for something you did not do.

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your profile picture gives me mixed feelings

and yes they should ban this as shole he confessed to the crime already

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Now, you’re looking for sympathy? You got caught red-handed, that’s it. You act like a victim here yet you act like a douche in your other threads and in-game as well. When you’re not being oppressed you wave your E-Peen like there’s no tomorrow and now that you’re in trouble, you cry for help? You look for people to sympathize you? That’s just plain pathetic, IMO

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LOL an idiot who realised he is wrong is now asking for sympathy ?? LOL what other people say to you does not change the fact that you transacted via RMT

We need to keep this thread alive so IMC will ban this idiot and so he would serve as a warning that IMC will really follow the rules they themselves put up, and wont show leniency towards people how play the sympathy card after all the evidence shown
@STAFF_John @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_J

i hope you do the right thing and show a firm hand and ban people like this

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RMT all the reason you need to get banned.
Anything else does not effing matter.

It’s like 1 plus 1 equals 2. It will always be 2 regardless of how much you protest it to be 5. When someone is caught doing illegal stuff, the next course of action is sanction/punishment.

Quote: Life is hard. It’s harder when you’re stupid.

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I do hope IMC do justice with this manner. This is a clear proof of a person violating the rules created by IMC. If the crime goes unpunished, the people will lose hope and the criminal will flourish.

In my opinion, this is the chance for IMC to prove that they are strict & firm on enforcing their role as the ruler.

Can confirm, dude is a douchebag.

well the bot problems and everything in between kinda set up the atmosphere for RMT to thrive. why? strict trade restriction market BS has made some players take down their items from market and can increase its actual price thus making it hard to find what you need.

cant compete with elite players who control boss loots.
unfair traders due to item restriction.
RMT? they are here to stay bec this game makes it hard to get rich if youre not part of the boss hunter elites.
you can lessen the impact of RMT by releasing premium items for sale that can be bought as an alternative to RMT. Since the token has already set up its own price, why not sell an item chest containing silver? RMT’s will buy it through IMC instead of sellers. then we just have to deal with people crying PAY TO WIN. honestly, id rather deal with paytowin whiners than all of these. thats just me

The people saying you and your family should kill themselves should be banned aswell. And those who make real life threats could be reported to the police.
However, just because what they did is worse it does not make what you less any less rule-breaking. Making real-life threats or harrassing is just as rule-breaking as RMTing.

If “X is worse than Y, therefore Y is acceptable” was a valid conclusion then i guess, with your logic, since murder is worse than stealing, stealing is therefore allowed. That however is not how rules and laws work. Just because one crime is worse than the other it does not mean that the person doing the lesser crime should go unpunished or that the rules do not apply.

If your logic applied people would be allowed do a lot worse. Just imagine: “This person threatened to kill me. I only threatened to rape her. Since killing is worse than rape, i should go unpunished”.
“The other person said my family and i should kill ourselves. I only told the other person he should kill himself. Since a whole family killing themselves is worse than one person killing himself i should go unpunished”.
You see how your logic doesn’t work and how rules should apply and crimes should be punished regardless of the severity of other crimes?

Harrassment/threatening is punished by ban and RMTing is punished by ban, according to common game rules.
Therefore you should get banned for RMTing and the others should get banned for threatening or harrassing you.

By the way : There are often situations where i have only 5k silver left. However, there is ALWAYS a possibility to get silver, even if that means grinding low level mobs for half an hour (like Mage Tower 5F).

That being said : LOL @ RMTer bragging about his gear in the other topic. Play the game and earn your gear the legal way before bragging about it. Every little 6 year old kid can buy good gear as long as he has the money, there is no reason to brag about gear obtained that way.

If we apply your logic to other situations : Should all caught thiefs go free and unpunished because many thefts don’t get reported?
Just because you are one of the persons caught while others don’t get caught it does not mean that you should go unpunished.
A crime is a crime, regardless how many others are caught doing it.

[quote=“jeremysantillan196, post:23, topic:260165”]
At least ban all people or group of people using RMT not only ME. IT’S VERY UNFAIR.[/quote]
If they could, they would. The problem is that unless people report them they can’t punish them, because, just like the police can’t observe every single person in the world, they can’t oberve every single internet site for RMTing and they can’t observe every single player ingame at the same time. They have to rely on people who notice RMTing going on to report it.

How can you claim to love this game, yet at the same time break the rules and be a part of the game becoming worse due to silver sellers making profit off you, resulting in more botting?
That’s like saying “i love my wife” while at the same time stealing money from her.

And regardless how much DLC/TP a player bought, players who break the rules should be banned regardless how much money they spent.
“i give you money, therefore i should be allowed to break the rules” should never be allowed.

The lesson is : Don’t do crimes in the first place, because if you do crimes and you do get caught you are in trouble.
And don’t say you love something while at the same time doing someting that causes that thing you love to become worse.

And if you notice someone RMTing, don’t do RMTing yourself, that makes you no better than RMTers yourself. Just because others do it does not make it legal. I don’t know why people have this kind of mentality. Report those others who RMT and don’t do any illegal things yourself.

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Someones getting the “Douche among the douche” award

Send in the banhammer!
@STAFF_John @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Max @STAFF_No @STAFF_J

This guy already confessed in doing RMT. If he doesn’t get banned for this, i have to say goodbye IMC. The game is already infested with Bots and Gold Spammers, if you let this arrogant RMTer go, you’re spitting on the faces of players who actually earned their items. Do the right thing IMC, publicly execute any proven guilty offenders. Start with this one.

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@jeremysantillan196
Since im feeling nice, my suggestion if you want to have a chance to save your account:
Be an honest person and write to the support, turn yourself in and confess to the support what you did.
Give them a list of all the illegal items you bought with real money, tell them they may wipe your illegally gotten items/silver but ask/beg them to leave your account and DLC/TP/characters unbanned so at least you can keep the account/DLC/TP/characters. Also tell them, if possible, from whom you got these illegally traded items/silver.

If they are extremely generous than they should be they might let you keep your account, but you should understand that they are perfectly allowed to ban you for it, in which case you should accept that as fair punishment for what you did.

From that point on however i’d advice you to play legal. And please stop being so egocentric, nobody likes that kind of behaviour.

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Well, if you’re going to complain about that, you should also complain about yourself. You seem to be the biggest hypocrite I’ve ever known. You say you want everything to be fair, but in truth, you simply want it to be fair for you not necessarily fair for everyone else.

Here are screenshots of you messaging me here in the forums:

You should probably change your attitude towards everyone and stop thinking that the world revolves under you, because it doesn’t.

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@STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_John @STAFF_J @GM_Sebastian @GM_Francis please turn an eye to this issue not only did this bastard admit to his crimes but give out threats as well, this behaviour is deemed a grave misconduct in your given rules, HE EVEN LOOKED DOWN ON YOUR AUTHORITATIVE ABILITIES FFS lol

he really deserves a ban

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