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Phada or Sissel? and Why?

Hi i have a cannon 2 sapper 3 archer 2 app

and i wanna buy phada or sissel… wich one is the best and why pls?

i think Sissel is the best. why? since Phada gives you Critical Attack and Sissel Critical rate.
if u have a low Critical Rate, have a good Critical Attack its useless, OFC if u have like 50% critical rate, its good get Critical Attack, but unless u get that. still better Sissel Bangle.

If you went appraiser, Phada, since you have more opportunity to land critical hits.
Otherwise, sissel is the best option due to its physical attack and crit rate

phada works better than sissel in my mergen, the aoe dmg from triple arrow get wider than before

Is AAR system changed? or work in the same way?

if i recall correctly is AAR -ADR of first target (counting the target with highest ADR first) - ADR of second, third target and so goes on.

is that correct? if so enemy ADR have been lowered for make more effective even low value of AAR?

i was used to play with vubbe gloves but after patch sold them for low def.

enlight me please :slight_smile:

Correct! still work the same way


i just tested it. Glowing in white enemies means it is receiving damage. With just using vubbe glove, i can hit 2 boss at the same time

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is there a optmal critical rate to reach in order to start getting critical atack instead of physical atack? i have 512 critical rate now, but i believe i can manage to get 702 critical rate. i think i should stay with phada right?

kindly reminder: i use phada purely because of AAR+1.

2x phada + vubbe + squire bbq

sissel is good but i doesn’t really need it

20m sissel for a bit of atk and cri rate???

just sell them for $$$$ and get +16 weapon

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aw… you just ruined the fun by revealing the secret

Is this triple arrow? Then is this right to say triple arrow hidden aar is 4 and with vubbe you can hit 2 mission boss which require minimum 6 aar.

nope, i use feint+barrage for all my testing (falconer3’s aiming in the picture), which is really weird because with only +2AAR from vubbe glove i can hit two large monster at the same time. Without it only one of them receiving the damage. My positioning is always in the middle of both of them. No circling was included in the test

Yeah barrage do have hidden AAR but no info about how much it is. I guess it’s 4 then.

That’s the thing about archers, IMC didn’t bother to put AAR rate in most skill description so that’s why a lot of people overlook how good AAR gear is.

Before, people been advising to not bother with AAR gear or just go falconer which limit your class choices. Now I see more people getting to know how awesome AAR gear/buff is.

woah I did not know barrage had a aoe ratio limit, I thought it hit everything in range.

really? i thought barrage is fixed max-5-target skill. My eyes arent fast enough to check how many enemies got hit with barrage, against 10 enemies. :yum:
are there any standarized way to check skill’s AAR?

Yeah because barrage have 5 line of attack(check with Oracle’s Forecast) and each of it’s line is 4 or 5 AAR(assuming). That’s why for non boss you can still see it hit many but boss which have 5 aoe def ratio, require minimum of 6 AAR to hit both mission boss.

Just try in 290 non aar gear vs full aar gear/buff.

Btw, people were posting weird interaction between circling and barrage but I never test it.

what weird interaction to be precise? i can help you test it. Is it happened after stat revamp or before?
Everytime i cast circling i reflex to use multishot afterwards :sob:

It’s like barrage hit lesser under circling but that was old post coming from 2015-2016. Prolly they have fixed it. Idk.

If you need more crit rate obviously sissel. So its base on your class build really.

it hit the same like barrage without circling, i tested it