Oh my. You must be terrible playing a pve classe combo in pvp.
That’s why we need reset vouchers
Don’t drag hunters down this topic <.< (also it’s single target, not instant killing, pet is easy to counter with knockbacks and usually the archer is really squishy)
I really wonder if staff even reads these kind of topics and why they stay silent if they do. It’s not like asking for pvp balance without killing the existing pve capacity is out of this world.
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Who told you missile hole offers status immunity? o.o
As said, you may like or not, but if you have taken QS, hunter, falconer, musk or any other you should consider of CC’ing instead of dealing damage, it can help you to win. Moreover when a single click and point stun offers 10 secs of CC. I won’t involve other classes because there isn’t point in that, of course the team with most clerics win and a cata or dragoon 2 with orange weapon will win and keep on.
As the other one stated, if you are not idiot you can get rid of cloaking. Same goes for MH, there are plenty of things to do as an archer.
They don’t and if they do they won’t care, they don’t ban bots imagine about this lmao.
That’s why I said before: [quote=“neith720, post:63, topic:348549”]
I won’t dig much since making a poll in forums won’t cause any effect in anything and the only thing that will happen is that everybody commenting here will lose their time for a lost crusade (for someone).
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I don’t even play ToS, forget PvP. Still being a sage I was killed plenty of times by lot of people, AFAIK every sage has been killed plenty of times, and tbh, tops are for clerics not sages, you should consider what a free win is lol
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If you aren’t PVPing, what makes you think your contribution to this discussion is meaningful? It means all you’re doing is getting info second hand from a bunch of bitter-ass forum people.
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Why you keep insulting? are you on your period? wizards are balanced, new equipment and gems aren’t, and wizard isn’t the class which benefits the most of it lol
Chill there, I haven’t played because it’s boring how unbalanced is and how a diev-oracle-kabba-inqui will win basically everytime. This added to +3kmdef makes basically any wizard useless, they can benefit of MH if picked sage but then this skill should be nerfed, so wizards deals 1 damage and not much more lol
Do I need to repeat myself?
Reset your status. Get cards and gems. 200kk may do the trick.
Try to build something with hunter 2.
Or flecher, or falconer 3 or sw 3.
Learn to play as archer, use oblique shot.
Holy hell why has this escalated so much, can’t we just have opinions without it turning into a massive argument.
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Terrible, LOL. What’s your rank and class?
When did I say that? I’m sorry. I’ll make it clear for you, any cleric that offers status immunity breaks the “archer quick fix” (status ailment) to deal with Missile Hole. They doesn’t make Missile Hole balanced or anything else than unbalanced.
As I said, again, when you have any cleric on your team, QS stun won’t work. As I said, again, it is 5 targets with Missile Hole, not one. And, again, status ailments skills doesn’t justify blocking all other skills from one entire tree. There is no such skill that op that requires, “Get X class or be useless” in terms of defensive skills.
And none of the things you can do as an archer changes how Missile Hole is unbalanced. Are you really comparing Missile Hole to cloaking? What about if Missile Hole breaks when you do any attack to enemy? Seems a nice adjustment.
Because you insult before, lol. Missile Hole isn’t balanced as a defensive skill and that’s it.
If you play as an archer you can understand how worse and way more unbalanced is Missile Hole comapred to Diev-Oracle-Kabba-Inqui. It’s the same as having 100% uptime Ausrine.
3k M DEF is nothing if you have high transcended gear. On Missile Hole you can get 10k phys attack and still hit 1. Thus, Missile Hole is unbalanced, there’s no way to counter Missile Hole.
Do I need to repeat myself? I have way better gears than you, with 500m worth of Aspana + Crossbow + Gems from transcendence. Still hits 1.
Did you read when I asked your class and if you play as archer? Which class do you play?
P.S.: I laughed at this.
Those 2 are well known to have the necessity of being right 100% uptime, expect the whole bible again lol
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@neith720 You don’t even know how your own skill works and their durations and keep saying they work in a different way. Am I really the one with the necessity of being right 100% uptime?
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I’m sorry but there are much more pictures running in the whole forums of having 8/10 clerics in top 10. If your point is to show that you are such an important and good player, well, MH can’t be that broken.
Is bleeding removed?Too many cures for every member if stunned, blinded, and other status ailments archers can provide. Still, being in ausrine and hitting enemy takes out MH buff as well, you see? Clerics can help with everything, but we won’t involve other classes - that answers your second quote, which reminds me your obsesion of tagging and quoting everything, annoying tbh.
Did I? I don’t think so but I may be wrong 
missile hole is broken because I say so ant that’s all.
Good luck with revenged after ausrine, that’s only if you aren’t one shot by malleus xD
Lol’d there, 3k mdef obtained by gems and some hat enchatment against farming orange weapon and saalus everyday plenty of times to deal with 1 pvp xD
Always, in every thread, in every comment, you must be right. May the God helps us if you aren’t lol
Lunar style, mutiquote at it’s finest to provide little answers, bet how many people are reading this? Bet how everything will end?
Let me help.
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So you have full equips build. Usinging a functional archer class. Good rank position. Yet you are crying that is hard to deal with sages and does 1 damage in a protection skill that makes you hit 1.
You probably have dex build. Hmm… The firts in the rank is a ff2? Oh boy… Ppl on your server know how to pvp?
Well w/e. Sages are fine the way they are.
Kaba, inq and diev have to be nerfed.
Any class can oneshot each other with a 6k attack weapom. But clerics are a point out the curve.
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No, that’s 2v2. My point is that I’m not a bad player but Missile Hole just makes it broken on 5v5 making archers useless while there are almost no Sages on 2v2 matches.
Prophecy, Blood letting, Cure, Counterspell and etc to counter Bleeding and status ailments.
Nothing to counter Missile Hole.
Revenge after Ausrine is easier to deal than Missile Hole after Ausrine.
I don’t mind accepting I’m wrong if I am. But when you say that Missile Hole duration is almost as same as Ausrine when it’s 7 times longer, there’s something wrong with your comments.
And, if you don’t know how to read nor how to play, there’s really nothing much that I can do to explain to you why is Missile Hole unbalanced.
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Personally i think the real culprit here is how defense scaling works. Since its so bad you basically get a meta that is 1 shot vs immunity spells. If you fixed defense then you could adjust the other skills without destroying everything.
But thats me
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I so miss standar equipment. The love / hate that system had. Not perfect, but matches lasted more than 3 seconds.
Exactly. Good rankings on 2v2 doesn’t means Missile Hole is unbalanced, it just means that almost all sages are on 5v5 matches.
I don’t have dex builds, hmm… the first is a Kino3FF2 and he plays really well. I am pretty sure that Klaipeda PvP is better than Silute’s PvP to be honest. (Or are you defending Sages because you’re those guilds with 5 sages to prevent archers from hitting you in GvG? lol.)
Archers can’t! Because Missile Hole. See? Unbalanced.
Actually that counters sleep, raise and everything. So yea, the team with a cleric probably will win we agree in that I guess, a PvP without cleric will be way better for an archer than for a wizard, that’s how it is. And depending ranks on cleric we can even discuss what will be better, but not here, and isn’t related to MH, since we are involving clerics, and that’s about archers vs wizards.
IIRC you didn’t accept that ausrine can be taken twice because there are a lot of factors in game, but MH can be taken infinites times, even if the area is pretty small. There are plenty of threads that 40 secs of immunity is the most OP thing, said even by saintone who was an expert in clerics and pvp in general.
I can’t discuss much if you keep finding possible solutions to deal with other stuff involving other classes but reject to involve other classes in your favor, but I guess that’s me that I don’t know how to read or play x)
They can, but you are taking into account cure, bloodletting, prophecy and so on.
I dont play with guild. Yet if you think missile hole is in archers way. Well hunters are in every class way.
Btw if you are playing 5v5 you have to understand that ist’s basically lucky to win.
There is no way to 1v5 as sw. It’s the cata 3 job to rush stuff.
Klaipeda’s pvp must be funnyer with more ppl playing. But I think quality comes firts than quantity.
Poor orsha
Not cryomancers. Not warlocks.
Why hunter turned into the big bad? It’s not like retrive/coursing latches onto 5 targets at the same time.
But yeah, as of late who has a cleric wins. or a cata with transcendance… or a popolion… things became too much of a joke, why were we taking this seriously again?