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People are really taking this add-on situation too lightly

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#41

They should make a very very clear announced statement on addons before banning anyone. iirc there was a post that said that addons that simply redisplay info (i.e. exp viewers, monster count viewers) were fine, but things like opening UIs outside of their intended locations and macroing were not. But I don’t even think that was in announcements, it was just a response to a post? don’t quote me pfft

oh wait, it was in a Q&A. fair enough but they should still make a list of bannable addons and etc.

#42

IMC should make a whitelist of add-ons.
Or at least be clear if the most popular ones are safe.

Have it on the front page, announce it in forums, make sure everyone sees it noone wants to be banned out of nowhere for this!

#43

This guy gets it. +1

#44

All addons are allowed to be used, they don’t need to make a list.

Access to repair, market and storage anywhere that led people to get banned are clearly glitch exploits, and not addons. The problem is that they used the word “addon” leaving a lot of unwary players confused.

Addons are modifications and customizations to the game interface to return some kind of information. It’s not that hard to understand.

The map addon don’t affect the gameplay of your character. You still have to run by yourself within the game limits to explore the maps. Can’t see any reason why it should not be allowed, since it’s only UI info.

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#45

This.

a quick search on the forum will let you know what is allowed or not. i always check to make sure the addon i’m using is allowed. i wait for a STAFF response.

Although i think they should have a list of approved adddons ( hell even sell them for TP or silver ) so that people who dont check can always look at the offical list so that there is no confusion.

#46

That would be insanely impractical to maintain. They would be better off just writing up a clear policy for add-ons.

#47

I swear, for you guys who have played multiple MMOs; is this a new thing to you?

This is present in like every MMO, the devs always leave this in a gray area.
(Or they just say flat out no, they never give a specific list, addons change and new ones are created)

Everytime I come on this forum, it’s like I read things from people born yesterday. It blows my mind.

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#49

ayyy LMAO xD xD xD xD

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#51

ayyy LMAO xD xD xD xD

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#53

Tbh IMC cant even know if ur using a addon if it is just client sided, i mean, a exp viewer just check the information in your pc not in the server so there is no way for iMC to know that ur using it.

Question is, how i rlly know that the addon maker didnt made anything restricted and will get my ass banned whiout me knowing it.

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#54

That was sorta what I said in my post but everyone ignored it probably because I wrote a wall of text. Oh well lol

#55

You’ll never know :wink:

BEWARE THE HAMMER

#56

If you haven’t seen it already @fiotedev :

Sweet delicious botter tears being shed here. Seems your cxAnywhere managed to get a bunch of botters banned by IMC. I’m proud of you.

#57

Um. Yes? Absolutely. It’s not the addon developer’s fault for providing it to you at your own risk. It’s not IMC’s fault, because they’ve been clear that addons that offer convenience instead of unfair advantages are okay.

Let me put it this way. If I put up an obviously malicious addon. Label it “DO NOT USE, THIS WILL DELETE ALL YOUR CHARACTERS WHEN YOU LAUNCH THE GAME”. The next day there will be a dozen people asking IMC for their characters back. People are too stupid to read or think anymore.

If someone runs rm -rf / and nukes their system, we blame the luser, not the place they found the command.

#58

I tend to write my walls of text as one connecting point. Pulling this one single point out sorta invalidates everything I said to counter one viewpoint that I’ve mentioned. But since reading is a difficult thing these days, people have chosen to ignore my key points here and pick apart “easy to argue” points taken completely out of context from the big picture.

However I’m not really having a debate with anyone here. It is what it is and you’re all free to disagree as you see fit. Since what I’ve claimed here has no evidence to back it up therefore it falls under opinion, I can’t realistically debate it with anyone so carry on.

#59

It really doesn’t though. The whole essence of your post is basically “so many people are using addons that it shouldn’t be the responsibility of the users to know what they’re doing”.

I pulled that quote to respond to the open question which best fit the theme of your post.

#60

The point of the post is that there isn’t always going to BE an “obvious” when people are choosing mods. I’m not a moron. I’m not going to make this giant wall of text just to say people aren’t at fault for choosing to use obviously suspicious / illicit mods.

The point was ‘grey’ areas and potential for things to exist in the mod code that people can’t understand that do other things than what the mod was advertised to do.

A lot of the current mods like exp viewer, map seem to be perfectly OKAY. But if you look at things from a future perspective, until loopholes and security issues are fixed, there’s a whole unknown variable here that leaves the safety of using mods in questions here.