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PC Gamer Review: 58/100 - "One nostalgia trip you might want to skip"

That is my point You would think after 14 years, they would have gotten much better at this, but nope. It has actually become worse.

Yes, the technology should definitely be better after 14 years man.

That’s like saying Hideo Kojima, the creator of Metal Gear Solid didn’t code it lol. It doesn’t matter. When you have ideas you can just hire people to do the coding and work for you. That is the point of a company.

Yeah, thats ludicrous. He must be living under a rock, or like i’ve said, inside of a bubble.

It’s clear that whiners doesn’t have a grasp about game development.

I love it when ppl say this to me. I’m a 3D graphics modeler and have designed my own video game models. My gf is a software engineer and has worked on Unreal Engine 4. We know how game development works. I think you’re the one who clearly doesn’t understand this.

If you want to use personal attacks and assumptions then go right on ahead. You’re just a clueless moron who thinks everyone should uninstall the game because they don’t agree with you. You’re a narrow minded idiot and the more I rip your retarded argument apart, the more desperate you look.

What sort of logic are you trying to impose here?

The only thing Gravity and IMC have in common is Kim Hakkyu. Who is getting better at what?

Since for some ridiculous reason you brought up Hideo Kojima. Do you realize Hideo Kojima was an employee in a billion dollar company and that MGSV had a near 100 million dollar budget?

You cannot compare that to IMC. IMC being a subsidiary to HanbitSoft.

Man, just quit. You don’t know a ■■■■ about system development.

You can have the best technology ever, but it still not the same. It’s completely different. Engines extremely different, core mechanics, networking, ah, so different.

Also, its not gravity who is developping ToS. I believe its IMC, right? What RO and ToS shares is the director, not the programmers, musicians, artists, designers, etc.

Not only different - its not a matter of hiring. Can you hire someone if you don’t have money to pay? No you cant.

What you need to hire someone? Money. That is IMC right now.

keep whinning, perhaps you guys thinks there is a button labeled [Make a perfect game] that just requires people to click on it.

c’mon man just quit the game if you dont like the company, the gameplay and everything else, just quit and don’t post your spam in forum, I just flag every post from you

Time to wake up to the reality tho. You realize that they’re blowing most of their budget on Wolfknights Online?

They have the funds, they have the development power, yet they choose to divert all their attention on another game just so they can compete with Blade and Soul. What else excuse are you going to use now?

The Hideo Kojima comparison was used because you don’t need to be a game programmer to develop video games. Hideo Kojima, Keiji Inafune, Kim Hakkyu or whoever just oversees the development of the games. They are called video game directors/producers for a reason.

I mean if its was really garbage you wouldn’t be here. . . .

Compete with Blade and Soul? Do you read the things you type before you type them? Is this a joke?

All three of those names you mentioned all have had or have a vastly different set of “tools” to use so to speak.

Last I checked KToS is still getting updated. Yeah this launch was screwed up but that is something else entirely that you are not arguing for.

As I stated many times, we are on the forum, so IMC might fix the problems. Yes, it’s a garbage now but that doesn’t mean that I don’t want this game to be successful.

Also, I supprted the developers with money, and I didn’t support this but what I saw in iCBT 2!

If IMC wouldn’t scam us with the iCBT2 , where AH was working, players could trade and **actually was superior to the current game in every way…**trust me…I wouldn’t pay for that garbage.

Also, I’m a customer, I have the right to complain. The game is garbage right now…deal with it.

Mixed review, bad review…there is no positive review anywhere. That means it’s a garbage. As I said… I like some of it, I have fun here and there…but that doesn’t mean that I don’t see the flaws.

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Smart people leave the game if they do think like that, unfortunately you dont have one. I said that as fact instead of opinion.

Point of your post? I said steam reviews are far more worrying to me, besides the obvious trashy ones. That goes both ways (best game evah! or omg worst game eva!)
Try again? I’m sure you can do better.
Oh wait I saw your post history, nvm.

Can’t tell if dedicated player or closet masochist. Either way carry on.

Technically, 58% does not mean “bad game”. If 100% means “perfect/best game ever” then 50% would mean “average”, in which case 58% would be slightly above average. It’s just a common (bad) trend that for some reason people and many modern reviewers have the conception that “average” means 75~80% nowadays and as soon as a game gets 70% or lower people think it means “bad”.

On that note : I don’t really trust gaming site reviews anymore.
There are many games that mainstream gaming sites/magazines declare as sub-par when many these were the most fun games i have ever played in my life (like Egosofts X-BTF/X2/X3 series which usually got 50~60%, but i played them for thousands of hours and enjoyed every minute of it).

So, who cares if they rate it average or even bad. I have ton’s of fun playing TOS.
The only problem is that it could affect player amounts and profits for IMC; but for me personally i don’t care since i have fun playing TOS with my friends.

what its fun about forums is how people try to debate on whatever topic, some with unexistent facts, others with facts that doesnt even come into matter, others with details that are so totally wrong, and other even with personal experience that we dont even have proof of…

Still here for the lols

It’s good you have amazing deductive abilities, but as a simpleton that represents the general low iq underachieving population of this community, I have to point out a flaw in your remark.

The truth of the matter is that players don’t care about “validity of perpective”. If you don’t like the art style, for example, your opinion is valid despite your experience in the game. A lot of negative opinions on the game are made on the basis of taste and do not need to be validated by an experienced player to hold merit. Thus, number of hours played is not sound ground to testify the validity of an opinion. I’m just a college dropout so my words probably mean nothing :confused:

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I bet most of u are still playing the game anyway lol

Bugs and broken att/skills from the cbt1 still there. Enough said.

As a few weeks player I can say the game itself looks more like pre-alpha rather than a released game. But it is not that bad to hear constant QQing all around this forum. Fix this, fix that, emoquiters threads, etc. That’s just retarded.

The major problem I see atm is phucked up graphic engine that uses only one CPU core and almost ignores GPU. This is a kind of problem that cannot be solved fast. And the sad thing is, people nowadays suffer very low patience pool.

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Just let the game quietly die already.

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