Hello!
This is the build im following with my pally to be. Im at dievdirby stage atm and im wondering if it would gimp the build too much if i switched monk with diev2? After getting to diev i realized i like the class so much hence my worries.
This seems to be true for anything that isnāt an ambush mob as mentioned by someone else which just despawns. I tested with 10 Conversion in Mausoleum Constructors Chapel and can convert all of the Earth Raflower in the hallway before you go to the golden goddess statue without respawns. It actually would be pretty game breaking with enough Paladins using Conversion to convert whole grinding areas to not respawn.
Also, if you one shot a monster that youāre trying to convert it doesnāt seem to work ever from what Iāve seen testing this in low level areas. Iām going to keep goofing around with this while I have conversion at 10, so if thereās any thing else people want to see Iāll test it.
Just found out that there are Normal monsters that cannot be concerted.
Thought of doing solo grind at demon prison 2F, but the dual wielding monster and crab-like monster canāt be converted.
They are normal monster thoughā¦hmmā¦wonder why
Could someone tell me how the heck do Paladins hold up after lv200? Iām currently lv108 c2>d1>pally but I have a feeling Iāll become pretty much useless at end game.
Really good guide, thank you!
I was making myself SPR-pal build (however I thought it will improve TU) and have some thoughts about Pardoner at Rank 7.
This guide canāt help me to choose, but encourage anyway.
(My Druid was scolded for being awfull heal and I was quite angry so started a new non-priest cleric)))
You get more offensive skills with Monk compared to Dievdirby Circle 2, as far as I know. The other skills you unlock with Dievdirby Circle 2 arenāt really needed. Well, at least thatās what Iāve been told.
I was particularly told that the Owl Statue isnāt very reliable. Though I think itās pretty interesting. Should look this up more though.
I think the biggest concern of the Monk route is that you would be losing out on the Rank 7 support when you unlock Plague Doctor.
Personally Iām thinking, The Plague Doctor, and The Monk Route is just the same. I could probably postpone getting a different class in the 5th Rank and just go straight to Paladin Circle 3. Once Rank 8 opens up maybe itās then you get to decide better.
Personally I think Monk needs two Circles. Dievdirby Iām not so sure but thank you for making me consider it again. And Plague doctor was really put there just to fill Rank 7 with something.
Thoughts on this build? I know its not much of a healer cuz its only C1 but my focus is on paladin and later monk.
Thoughts on this build? I know its not much of a healer cuz its only C1 but my focus is on paladin and later monk.
Lvl200+ Paladin Str Type C2>Diev1>Pala3
It depends on your definition of āhold-upā.
Survivability: Great (Monsters will have a hard time killing you, even bosses PhysDef 300+ MDef 500+)
DPS: Its ok, decent but not great (Paladins are a defensive class in the first place, but questing and PvE pose no problems or feel a lack of DPS; We canāt hit as strong as those 2 handed swordsman/spears, but we do pack decent dmg in Smite+Conviction combo and off-rotation skills such as Carve, Normal Attack 700+ Smite Dmg 10k+)
Party Status: Semi-Wanted Public | Great at Private parties (Most would welcome heals. But only your close associates would know the importance of ResistElements, Restoratio, and Barrier at these levels)
PvP : dont even bother, we do not have any capability with itā¦ due to smites charge 1sec
Hope this answers your question.
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We mostly go for certain classes due to their skills, as such, if you still can, try to go forā¦
Priest3 (Stoneskin)
Diev2 (Owl)
Pala3 (Barrier); though it can be supplemented by barrier scrolls.
Monk (sorry, donāt have experience in it? Kamehame-ha skill?)
In my opinion, Priest 3 would offer you alot more. Though that means you should only get Pala1.
Iām assuming your an STR type as well.
Yes high strength paladin monk build. planning to go monk 2 with rank 8 later. according to this thread, monk double punch has 10% chance to add a strike debuff so that works with paladin. Diev 1 just for Carve and priest 1 for a little support.
Paladin 200+ Str type,
TU is good, but its really only because of insta-death. Most paladins only use it inside of dungeons where monsters are concentrated(mobs) and have high HP. Instant killing 50% of the mobs would theoretically be an insane amount of dmg that your party will no longer need to do.
It however loses effectiveness outside of dungeons where monsters are far apart, and low hp. Much better to just smite+conviction to kill. Also TU dmg is pathetic xDā¦ auto-attack is stronger.
To summarize, all paladins should have at least Lvl1 or even Lvl2 TU(for attribute). Itās a 1 skill wonder for us =)
I see, then you would be prioritizing DPS.
It would mean that you would want the combo DoublePunch+Conviction+Smite = (10%debuff + quad elem debuff + triple smite)??
Interesting build, sorry but as Iām not well familiar with monk. I wonāt be able to provide you with actual-experienced advise.
IMHO getting c3 paladin faster will far out weigh anything getting a monk at rank 5 will give you. Take into consideration though that Iām particularly biased against monks 
Just picked up Smite at Pally C1 (itās now at 2/5) and Iām feeling like its a lot weaker than I expectedā¦does it scale better at 5/5 or does it not start to feel strong until c2-3?
you wont feell stronger with paladin. decent damage for mutan and devil other are not that good haha
Is the Owl Skill really worth the Rank?
Iāve also wondered that because the Class provides a great skill the scales with STR (Carve Attack) and offers a lot of utility with Statues.
For Monk, really strongly believe that it requires two Ranks, and yest itās for Energy Blast, and increased levels of Double Punch and other skills. In theory it maybe possible to pair it with Paladin but you would be losing out on newer classes at Rank 8 and beyond if you wish to go for it.
Would rather stick with Cleric Circle 2 over Priest. 1st Circle of Priest is quite under-powered IMO.
Owl skill(Magic Dmg), depends if you have an extra rank available.
As a paladin3, Diev1 is more than enough (Iām assuming your STR, due to carve). Owl statues are good but there not that great (for STR types). I hope that none gets offended with that statement.
If you are maximizing for DPS then you would want the rank7 classes, as they would be able to offer you more. As such, it would be hard getting diev2, unless you are leaving paladin at rank1.
If you are leaving paladin at rank1, then it is up to your preference and playing style. That means, As per conversation above of picking monk. Would you prefer monk2? or diev2? then monk3? or pd1?
However, if you are str type i would recommend monk2(3) instead, as it offers the best scaling for STR types, as well as the best physical DPS circle we can get.
To summarize, since you are aiming for an STR Type | Phys-DPS | Pala1 | Diev1 | Monk1, the monk circle3 / monk2PD1 will be able to offer you more than Diev3 / Diev2PD1.
Feel free to correct me if my assumptions are wrong.
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Was just sharing my thoughts also, since there were a lot of gaps from the things Iāve researched on, and what I have picked up from players in-game.
Yes, Iām going for STR based build and I am also planning on going three circles in Paladin. (Iām setting this to stone as I would like to be explore the āblue classesā of all professions if I ever find the time)
The single rank in Monk provided in one of the builds in this guide was rather interesting at first but I was kind of feeling that it lacked versus getting Plague Doctor at Rank 7 ā which offers both offense and support. I am actually quite torn between the two. Monk just looks so awesome and it makes more sense for a STR build BUT you really need to invest two ranks in it to make it more useful. Which means with a Cleric 2 > Diev 1 > Pal 3 build you would need to make a choice at Rank 8 if you will stick with monk or open up to the new classes that might come around.
At the moment I am really planned on going this route Cleric 2 > Diev 1 > Pal 3. I donāt think it would be lame to get Monk at Rank 7 if it falls to that but I think it would be a hard decision once I commit to it and something synergistic to Paladin pops up at Rank 8.