Hello, I would just like to ask why don’t you get at least one level of Deprotected Zone in your STR builds?
If you are going to get c3 Paladin anyway why not get c2 Cleric instead of Krivis c3? You get a higher level Cure, Safety zone attribute, Fade and Divine Might. You’ll also be able to heal your party and keep your tank alive.
@Yuuuu Deprotected Zone is difficult to setup, putting those skill points in Cure and Safety Zone is the better option in my opinion.
It’s kind of gimmicky. But it’s entirely up to you.
The only real use you’ll get out of it is when soloing and you need level 3 for the attribute, sacrificing points in either Safety Zone or Cure. Monsters move around a lot and it’s very hard to keep agro all in one spot for a prolonged period of time.
Deprotected Zone scales with SPR. Without any significant SPR investment, it only decreases defense by about 5-10 points. Considering how difficult the skill is to use properly, I wouldn’t recommend it for any build that isn’t investing heavily into SPR.
I thought about that. I think I might go for Cleric c2 after Paladin c3.
I mean, you would typically grab cleric 2 before paladin, otherwise you won’t have enough healing in dungeons.
If you do want to go Krivis instead, you need to realize the main reason is to get the Aukuras + restoration combo. If you are doing that, I’d grab Krivis c3 before paladin, because the key part of that combo is reduced time between HP regen ticks.
I see. What is the best STR Paladin build then? I’m willing to reroll the character and I would very much like a melee paladin, DPS/healer hybrid. Can it be done and am I gonna get invited to end-game parties? What role would I play? Because I see no point on being the sole healer as a Paladin, I might as well roll a full support if I wanted to do that.
My question is, can a Paladin play a half DPS half healer role? Do parties even want that?
Cleric c2 > Priest c2 > Paladin c3 is my best bet?
Thanks!
For a STR Pally, your best bet is Cleric 2 > Diev 1 > Paladin 3 > Plague Doc/Kabbalist/Oracle.
I very much do not recommend going Priest Pally, especially if you don’t plan on going Priest c3.
As a Paladin, your role will always be Support/DPS. You’ll always be able to contribute to DPS in a somewhat meaningful way because of Smite and Turn Undead, but you’ll never be top DPS because you just don’t have the STR scaling. And you’ll always be able to support because Restoration’s healing bonus and Barrier.
Primarily, people want you in parties because of Barrier, but as a Paladin with Cleric 2, you will have enough healing to fulfill the primary healing role in a group as well.
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I think, if you want to go for Priest, it definitely has to be Circle 3. The utility unlocked in this Circle is just too hard to pass.
BUT you will be better of building with INT. It just benefits the build more.
Your main contribution really is not damage but support, and not getting Circle 3 hurts that a bit. The Paladin damage is really “off-DPS” at best.
As a solo class, it will be manageable if you pick the mobs and places you farm in. Given good gear and maximization of your Priest buffs, I don’t see why you can’t succeed on your own.
Given that there is no indication yet what Rank 8 will be, there is always an option to squeeze in Chaplain either at Rank 5 or Rank 8. Chaplain provides a big jump to DPS for Priest Builds. But again don’t expect it to outperform other classes. BUT definitely you get to enjoy both worlds.
Hey.
Gonna try the strength-focused Cleric C2 > Diev C1 > Paladin C3 > ??? Build.
I was wondering if Pardoner C1 would be an acceptable rank 7 pick. I gain the ability make some money which I generally suck at majorly in most games, I can still main heal, while at the same time still possess most of the core melee paladin tools (only thing that’s switched according to the build in the OP is Monk C1 which I’ve heard is lackluster…).
Cleric c2 > Diev c1 > Paladin c3 > Pardoner c1
Looking at Pardoner C1 aside from Simony it doesn’t seem to be that bad in terms of what it provides in terms of utility.
Any thoughts?
For a Spirit Build it might work. BUT I think you will not be maximizing the class for the skills you get in 1st Circle:
Indulgentia seems to scale from some other class skill. The damage seems a bit low for a Rank 7 Damage Skill. If its curing status ailments and damage you want, might as well go for Plague Doctor.
Discerning Evil might work well with Conviction, it its considered a “harmful effect.”
Increase Magic Defense, I think is the only good thing on the spread to get worthwhile which considers my first comment, you should have a bit of SPR invested to it to make it worthwhile. Some skills from the Cleric and Paladin tree will benefit from this. (TU and Deprotect) but to what extent I am not entirely sure.
Simony is more of a Priest Related Skill as it has more usable buffs. If the Duration of Resist Elements is extended in a form of a Scroll, I think that’s about the only thing that you can craft with Simony.
Barrier? The best scroll of them all?
Thanks for the clarification regarding Deprotected Zone.
Also regarding your strength build, wouldn’t one level in barrier be enough since the duration of Barrier is actually longer than the cooldown even at level one?
I am not entirely sure how scroll crafting works. If its all that popular, I would have seen players (Paladins) setting shop to sell them.
As far as my experience is concerned when I buy from these spell shops, the spell is immediately casted. So I don’t know if it is always the case. (I would like to know if I can actually stock up on it. I would like to stock up on Sacrament Scrolls if possible.)
In any case, I did do some digging and for Paladin and the only skills that are applicable are Smite, Restoration, and Turn Undead. Not very marketable, really. I have read before that these change periodically.
So for a Paladin, it is the other skills for Utiliy that is appealing to get Pardoner. Particularly the Increase Magic Def. There are very little defense against MATK so I think its the top skill if you are dead set getting Pardoner. To me it isn’t worth the rank of the other points will go to waste in a single Rank.
Additional Reading: Spell Shop is separate skill. When you use Simony you end up with a scroll which can be sold in market or loaded onto the Spell Shop.
Barrier scrolls are like probably the most talked about scroll to get from a Pardoner for use in Earth Tower.
Well very much noted. I stand corrected. 
On a money making standpoint that would be a good idea but other than I don’t think there is anything else much to offer.
The number of mobs you can convert scales with the skill level.
so if i have lvl 5 conversion i can have 5 mobs following me ?
Speaking of which can we talk a little more about conversion? Is this skill worth it? 1 point wonder?
Useful in a lot of situations? This is the only scale that has me a bit perplexed when distributing my points on the skill builder.
if i can take more than 3 - 10 mobs i think this skill are worth while. i only test conversion lvl 1, work well in dg 130. i take the archer mobs (conversed mobs can use skill and got blessing effect but no sacrament), but it seems i can’t converse flying or undead (halowenter), the big guy mobs, and maiden in 130DG. dont know why thought.
il try level it up too lvl 3 and see what happen. if i can take 3 enemy mage or aoe enemy i think its a decent skill lol.
Can you talk a little bit about how it works? I have no idea, like, how it even works at all. What happens? What do you do?
Conversion has been reported as being fairly buggy. Aside from that, monster AI is terrible, so it really doesn’t help you that much unless you get lucky. It’s also definitely only worth it if you’re a STR build because of the attribute. It’s definitely more “all or nothing” than “one point wonder” because the effect scales fairly well. The effect is just kinda bad?
Regarding r7 choices: Pardoner is okay. It’s not particularly great in a STR build, but you can make it work. Obviously the main draw is simony, but even if you don’t have have SPR, increased magic resistance is still helpful, and discerning evil could also be useful at times.
If you don’t already know people that are going Plague Doc, PD is a really good option still. You won’t get much out of Incineration once they start releasing later ranks, but all of the utility skills are powerful and non-int scaling.
If you do already know people that are going Plague Doc (or just don’t wanna go PD), Kabbalist is a good option as well. +hp and +sp, Revenged Sevenfold synergizes with being in melee range, and you can ride Merkabah for mobility I believe.
Edit: nervepress explained the Monk c1 at r7 reasoning to me and it actually makes a decent amount of sense. If you’re a STR Paladin, it’s probably your best DPS option, you just get less support out of it than other options.
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