When you mind p2 are you taking c1 p1 p2 or c1 C2 p1 p2? Also with p2 you can’t take pd so then you will not have enough to remove debuff (cure is not enough at the high end), don’t you?
Thanks
If it doesn’t have to be the path u mentioned with just two slots and you want to play supportive pala with zoo build:
C1 P2 Pal3 Ora Inqui. P2 >> C2 for zoo, since you won’t be smiting much xcept for turning mobs and you can mass heal your air or high HP mobs by % far better than heal tiles. and also better Bless with SPR to also turn undead to get SPR based 1hit kill ratio on it.
You don’t need much safety zone since you have Barrier from Pal3, Oras magic shield, Safety zone lvl 5, and the zoo meatwall.
If no Zoo build:
C2 P2 Pal3 Inqui <-- this is more of a dmg/supp than the others.
C2 D1 Pal3 XX will do good supp/heal and still got 2 slots for either Ora (no zoo build as you cant heal air mobs, still nice but not best) monk for dps or get crazy for PD in pvp and Inqui for final rank.
But what is the point to have p2 when you can buy the spells (with max rank) I know just for res but a part if that what is the reason why people play with p2?
What do you mea mean with zoo build
Blessing goes fast as hell from pardoners, so better have your own one! huge dmg boost.
revive, resurrection, mass heal (to provide more heal since you go c1 cleric only) and also cuz of monstrance, you get right the exact skill points to have all needed at P2.
That is a zoo build, you turn changed mobs with oracle to serve you as “pets”. you can get one mob turned per conversion level you have, you can get mobs such as bosses xD with 87M hp, 500k hp… to be your “MEAT WALL” or get mobs that deal fast aoe atk like Flamil (aoe spin for around 9k per hit, every 2 secs casted) or magic mobs that give you fire enchant (as if a wiz was with you) or merog shamans that provide 5 sec cd safety zones with 22 hits on it…
It takes time to zone enough and right mobs in a map with change to turn em, but once you do it… OH LORD… you can even go even more AFK than Necros pre-patch and farm HG without a single repair, pot or anything used for 1 week, without logging out, or anything if you want to. Or ofc you can move and help the zoo kill mobs with your others atks… and if you are in a rush and don’t want to setup, just change and no matter what comes turn it and keep turning as the mobs get killed, if they get killed (you can heal ground or air: heal tiles ground or mass heal for ground and air) which is rare, the AI makes them move into any heal near they find even before attacking to get hp back to at least 50%.
Down side is that mobs don’t follow into another map or logout, but still, is no problem, and if no time to turn mobs or so… you still provide, good support with oracle skills, priest ones, some dmg with pala and bless dmg and a bit of heal from C1 and P2.
So then the best way to go paladin support right now is playing c1 p1 p2 pal 1 pal2 pal 3 orc and inq?
What stars should I use?
Stars? you mean stats? skills? or?
You can avoid inqui and pick another random support you might want if you dislike being able to do something else appart from zoo and supp… but i wouldn’t suggest it.
As for stats if you follow the path would be SPR/STR variations on what you want to focus more:
1:3, 1:2, 1:1, 2:1, 3:1 ratio would be good, and add some CON to the mix… like 30-40 total used points, not more needed.
If INQ, more str than spr, if no inq and another supp class rank there… SPR
To be specific
I am planning Cle2 -> Pr1 -> Pal3 -> X -> Inquisitor
With X, it’s either Priest 2, Kabba or PD. Aside from which, Mr. mario_st has already explained everything what I want to say, and better; in fact the only thing that kinda scares me is which stat should I take for my Magic+Melee build, but it looks like everything including the AA depends on Bless already.
Before this update I always read… Cleric support without C2 was nothing because the priest heal was not enough. So then, now after the update. if you want to play a support cleric you can avoid cleric 2 and take priest 2 instead.
Is its heal good enough? (PVE point of view)
Also Is PD not good idea to use for PVE? I found it brings a nice skills to debuff.
with a P3 a % heal even without int, it heals quite nice (mass heal) and adds blessing to the mix with a high lvl, if only P2, blessing lvl 10 is still good enough and mass heal can go for almost 20% hp + extra (dunno if there is gem to make it be lvl 6, if so 20% hp + added. with lvl 5 heal + gem = 6 tiles per cast, enough to heal i think.
Priest2 heal only is only good in one circumstance:
Your party stays relatively close together and does not run all over the place. If they do, your heal will miss.
If you can assure the above condition, then mass heal is enough for many situations. If not, then it’s not enough at all.
Hello there,
What do you think about the following PVE builds (I am not sure which stats should I use)
Well… didn’t had the chance to test out the Conviction + God Smash on Wheel but… if it is lower than that 50% charm dmg on melee hits + the conviction + smite… would be a crazy combo class.
it is 30% now
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Has someone checked if Paladin with Taoist is a good idea? I dont have rank 8 to test it.
Would Cleric C3 > Paladin C3 > Kabbalist > Inquisitor be a good PVE support character?
With probably 50 invested in CON and rest full INT.
Yes, However I don’t see why full INT?
Probably you want to go STR.
I think Paladins lost a bit of their charm with this patch. They are a very defensive class for Resist Elements / Barrier but mobs don’t hit so hard anymore so these skills aren’t -that- essential. Might be a bit interesting when the Barrier scroll nerf comes to iToS.
Oh, I didn’t know STR was better for Paladins, I thought they were better with INT or something haha, what would be the skill distribution for that build?
Also, what barrier scroll nerf?
Hmm… Barrier will get an attribute that increases range by a lot and the default range will be drastically reduced, so if you use Barrier scroll, it won’t come with the attribute. It’s in the kToS patch notes somewhere.
I would go for something similar to this:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111bbbfg.1f33556a.1f3f6175.35.44657581
Remaining skill points are up to you. I distributed only the minimal and very important skills.
Okay thanks a lot!
I was also considering Diev C1 instead of Cleric C3, lots of utility and free transportation, quite handy.
Also how’s Guardian Saint? is it still bad?