Oracle c3 discussion

[Ynirie]

Fair enough, I’d like to actually test the oracle c3’s skills on hand first but IMC won’t let us do that T^T sigh.

[FarWanderer]

Wonder if disenchant will be able to turn off the healing from Twist of Fate.

[Mota_Hoyuki]

As for twist of fate, it’s really hard to tell how useful it will be. But I assume it’s a 1 hit kill once mobs have 40% or less hp. If that’s really useful or not will depend on the skill cooldown. If it’s like death sentence, with a 5~10 minutes cooldown, then it’s barely useful

I don’t believe that skill would be able to actually kill targets, but if it does, it’s a wonderful skill then.

[Ynirie]

That’s interesting, actually what does disenchant remove generally? and what is the twist of fate classified into? Is it a debuff or a good buff? Although in theory that sounds pretty cool however that means you’d have to get 2 clerics on a party.

[xEarlx]

The new “Fortell” skill will randomly pick players on the magic circle and grant them temporary invincibility status.

From what I can see, this skill has a potential to work well with a Linker2/3 Spiritual Chain. If the invincibility status can be shared, then that can give the whole party invincibility for its entire duration. Which can compete with the Melstis+Ausrine gimmick.

[mrshadowccg]

I can be wrong but, it really looks like the skill actually deals damage (meaning you can kill the enemy with it) instead of just lowering their max or current hp.

I mean, you actually see the default white number with the damage, and then the green numbers with the mob healing afterwards…

[Mota_Hoyuki]

I was thinking, what if before we start an dungeon or something like it, we duel w/ our tank, throw that skill at him and then heal them so the 80% healing effect still apply? Itss 30secs of free healing XD

[Ynirie]

This is some good ■■■■, what the ■■■■. This can be exploitable. Wow this needs to be tested.

[mrshadowccg]

It says it heals double the hp lost so it’s probably only 15 seconds actually healing more than what you lost (I doubt it’s not linear?)

[Mota_Hoyuki]

Thats why i said to heal the target. so he can have at least idk 25secs of “Healing factor”

[DiMeowgio]

Based on the description (and also the warning). I believe this will temporarily set the target’s HP to 60% of whatever max it had. Making that 60% the “new max HP” and thus the new HP you have to drain in order to kill the monster. When time runs out and the target isn’t dead, they gain back their original HP value and this is probably why it warns against possible improper usage.

[mrshadowccg]

I think it warns about possible improper usage because it heals double the amount of hp lost. Meaning if you don’t kill the mob after using the skill, it will probably heal up to full life really quick and stay at it until the duration ends.

EDIT:

I was thinking, what if before we start an dungeon or something like it, we duel w/ our tank, throw that skill at him and then heal them so the 80% healing effect still apply? Itss 30secs of free healing XD

Considering how IMC doesn’t plan those things prior to implementation, it will probably work xD

[Mota_Hoyuki]

Well, im making assumptions based on the gif, it doesn’t looks like it have an “spare time” for ur party to damage the enemy before it starts healing.

I think it warns about possible improper usage because it heals double the amount of hp lost. Meaning if you don’t kill the mob after using the skill, it will probably heal up to full life really quick and stay at it until the duration ends.

That^

[DiMeowgio]

To further my point earlier, this is why it’s even more difficult to decide if getting C3 Oracle would be worth it (too little info). Although, counter to my own argument, if you went C2 Oracle and got it to Lv280, might as well go all in because C2 practically gave you nothing new (except for higher levels of the good stuff from C1).

Death Sentence is basically a glorified slow debuff.

[mrshadowccg]

I was thinking, what if before we start an dungeon or something like it, we duel w/ our tank, throw that skill at him and then heal them so the 80% healing effect still apply? Itss 30secs of free healing XD

And then melstis it if the healing comes from a buff xD

That skill might have a really long cooldown, though. When they explicitly have to state something “also works on bosses” you might as well expect a nasty drawback to it.

because C2 practically gave you nothing new

You’re pretty right about this, they really need to rework oracle C2.

[Clover]

The new “Fortell” skill will randomly pick players on the magic circle and grant them temporary invincibility status.

From what I can see, this skill has a potential to work well with a Linker2/3 Spiritual Chain. If the invincibility status can be shared, then that can give the whole party invincibility for its entire duration. Which can compete with the Melstis+Ausrine gimmick.

This just might work. Will need some testing and more information on the skill - things like duration of status, frequency of the status being granted, etc.

[Kyanni]

I’m really, reaaally sad because I’m a Bokor, and if a get c3 Oracle I can’t get PD, if I get PD I can’t get c3 Oracle why

[jchsc32]

I’m glad oracles got shi* on b/c azura wilon on Klaipeda, hes human waste. His main source of income are superior corona rod recipes from the white spion mages, he farms them the majority of the day on his oracle, if he sees you killing one he will quickly run to your white spion mage and transform it before you kill it so you cant get the recipe, thank azura wilon for the crappy c3 options, karmas a bitc*.

[DiMeowgio]

He can’t cast “Change” to transform those White Spion Mages anymore after the Aug 2 patch though.

edit: wording

[Mota_Hoyuki]

Tell me why