From the looks of it, it removes level 1 buffs. So yeah it’ll remove bloodletting and prophecy. That also means other classes like swordsman with all of their self-buffs are gonna get rekt.
But it has a huge range. It’s not like incineration where its hard to aim in melee range. IMC screwed up bad this time. There is no balance here.
I wouldn’t be surprised. Plague Doc Fumigate is the only skill which is able to remove rank 3 Incineration debuff, which is a plague doc skill. Truly a master of ailments, devs got that theme right.
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I hope I can, hahahaha. I spent almost 10m on upgrading attributes.
Oracle c2 was already a gamble. So we got what we asked for XD tons of RNG.
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You’re not the only one, I was hoping that this would be a class that has the capability of eating up your mana, but it appears that this is not the case. However, I was going to devote to a full oracle anyways. If I don’t have a shop to help people change gender, then I will be busy testing the skills out as I do have a 280 oracle idling away for petamion and other such recipes. With the recent patch, change and death sentence are screwed, so there hasn’t been much motivation to do something better with it.
Oracle 2 seems to be okay, fine I guess if you don’t really have any other choices for filler ranks. Rank 10 of prophecy is good enough, however it puts into debate whether Priest would have been better in ressurect, kabbalist for revenge and other stuffs. sigh.
The only reason for oracle 2 is higher levels of arcane energy and prophecy. A level 7 counter spell is good enough in GvG, higher is simply for insurance. Either, oracle 2 contains more auxiliaries that would make it more appealing such as extended time on prophecy or counter spell, or oracle 3 has something to greatly distinguish itself as a good support class, because right now, PD and Kabbalist are walking all over it, not to mention Druid is making it look like a joke.
There’s a reason why enough people are calling Oracle a 1 circle wonder, because with the information we have right now, there isn’t a good reason to go C2, and there really is no reason for C3 as these are all a gamble. I understand what strategies they want to have working with it, but a mere safety zone or perhaps a counter spell can nullify twist of fate instantly.
If you’d look into really late game, I’d guess the arcane energy is my best bet in one of the greatest scaling skills in game. It has a merit on it’s own, but yeah I kinda agree with you, Oracle c1 is good enough, the oracle c2 is a bait but can be potentially a sleeping giant, it’s hard to guess whether SP’s would make a significant difference in the late game or a new mechanic would be introduced i.e more sp=more magic ampli or something, I’d like to know but I guess I’m satisfied for oracle c2 at the moment. In the future case, if only oracle receive buffs then I guess we can it as a decent class, but for now it’s fine as it is, just don’t get baited for c3 at the moment without knowing the proper skill tooltip.
I really hope that we find an hidden potential for those new skills, because i really want to believe in c3 oracle…
I know we shouldn’t compare other classes much since each class has its pros and cons, but we didn’t got anything “Powerful”. Well, actually we got the stronger and the weaker skill of the game(Twist of Fate), so idk what to say about that thing. It’s not reliable.
Oracle C3 in a nutshell : Some okay ̶R̶N̶G̶ situational skills
I mean, twist of fate can be reliable once the boss has low health, but definitely not optimal when a boss has 100% health, but i’m still skeptical whether parties can burst a boss that fast unless you deal tremendous amount of damage in 1 rotation.
I believe that twist of fate should have something like 3~4 secs before it starts healing. Theoretically it heals the damage dealt in 15 secs, and the rest is extra healing. so if the idea is to burst something in 1 skill rotation we would need at least an extra time to do it.
It’s good since males can now swap to female, get impregnated, and then swap back to male.
We would only need to keep our dps higher than the boss healing for the skill to be useful, but healing 80% of an BOSS max hp is something crazy( and if the boss has some invincible mechanism(Like siauliai tree) and that skill is up we’re screwed).
Yeah but that raises the problem in burst classes, in a party you typically want a swordie (don’t put memes about exp tome swordies jk), archers (which is a constant dps), a wizard and a cleric, and there are limited burst classes, I really doubt it, if we could get into higher circles probably it would be benificial but not so right nowd.
I do not agree with this at all. First, this is a Circle 8 class that had to have invested in the first 2 circles of Oracle to even be accessible and at least be at Lv280+. Tell me, do you personally know of at least 5 or more other people who went C2 Oracle and are at Lv280, just waiting on this update?
You make it sound so matter of fact-ly that this will be the norm (like Pardoner shops). It’s not even enticing to go C3 Oracle at this point (w/ just a teaser), I doubt towns will be “littered” w/C3 Oracle shops like you mentioned.
On point though, as a fellow owner of a C2 Oracle (parked at Lv225 pending more information on C3 Oracle) I do not have enough to go on at this point to make a decision. The Oracle “kit” is pretty much at your full disposal at Circle 1 anyway.
Littered or not, they would still be there, it won’t remove the fact that people can access them generally. And if the consensus of Oracle c3 is low and the change gender shop is being economically controlled, more people would be inclined to take oracle c3 just for the money. It’s not that hard to get to lvl 280, though I don’t know more than 5 but I do know 3 oracle friends, 1 is going for oracle c3 and 2 is going on a different path. I just don’t think it’s profitable enough to get a gender swap which ■■■■■ up your tp costumes; no beneficial buff for now but @Veritas do informed me there are circulating rumors on additional stats.
Oracle c1 seems fine taken on its own. C2 and c3 skills are so gimmicky and situational that those circles feel like a waste of higher ranks, unless you’re looking to get more levels of the c1 skills or really like the concept.
Going from Diev2 to Ora1, I can’t help but compare Fortell to Ausrine statue. The statue can be buggy, but at least it’s a sure buff that allows roaming afterwards. Fortell seems more like a filler skill when other protection skills are on cooldown.
The update does not specify if Twist of Fate calculates from maximum HP or current HP. If it’s the former, it could be a timesaver skill. I just hope they don’t give it a ridiculous cooldown like with Death Sentence.
I look forward to seeing skill details and attributes. Hopefully there are some good hidden mechanics.
Don’t worry, I’m a fellow Oracle and I’m shooting down your line because of improbability. I refuse to accept that “people can access them generally”.
We are a mere handful at this point that have actually invested in Oracle; let alone C2 Oracle. I personally have a C1 Oracle at Lv275 (just a few more cards and grind and it will hit 280) and the aforementioned 225 C2 Oracle. Practically speaking, a lot of people have yet to reach their FIRST Lv280; add to that the “Alt-Fever” (w/c I caught as well) that the game promotes and this is where our point of view differs.
On topic though, I believe that no one can really make a “SOLID” decision if simply basing on what’s currently available (via teasers). They need the figures, the hard facts, the numbers to make their calculated choice.
On the other hand, anyone who’s fully set on making an Oracle C3, come hell or high water, will definitely be one of the people we’ll see selling GC in town.
We can all just hope for the best and just keep enjoying the game.
TL;DR: C3 Oracle feels meh at most, but if you really want it, go for it.
Well, we have no idea how those skills will work.
My hunch is that gender change will be indeed just for looks and/or fun but it might be a skill with max level capped at 1 (so you only waste 1 skill point in it).
We have no idea how foretell will work, but I think it will be similar to forecast with a higher % chance to make attacks miss. If it’s something around 30% to 40% chance to avoid any attacks, and it has little to no downtime (probably duration will increase with skill level), it might be really useful. Imagine stacking that with forecast and paladin’s max lvl resist element.
As for twist of fate, it’s really hard to tell how useful it will be. But I assume it’s a 1 hit kill once mobs have 40% or less hp. If that’s really useful or not will depend on the skill cooldown. If it’s like death sentence, with a 5~10 minutes cooldown, then it’s barely useful.