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OP Swordsman > Highlander > Barbarian 3x >?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hi there, I’m fairy new to the game and I was wondering how do you do the OP Swordsman > Highlander > Barbarian 3x > ??? Build? I want to build it so I can make sure I get a fair understanding of the game and its fundamentals, it might be silly but I really want to try it out then possibly try others afterwards. I’ve currently found 2 builds that seem to be viable and make real sense, one of them really in-depth:

#1

or

#2 In-Depth

Which one do you guys think I should go w/? Oh and in #2 should we really swap Mordschlag 10 and make it 5 so Cyclone can go 10? More DPS? And how should I go about the stats? Full STR or full DEX for the 2 builds?

Also, I found this one but I’m not sure if this works as what the person’s instructions have provided, is it true? Does this work?

Much thanks! :slight_smile: -A very new newbie.

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#3

You should go with the Highlander>barb3>doppel2 the indepth one.

as for stats i suggest mix between con/dex/str with priority on str.

the other like barb2, high2, is waste really barb3 potential comes at c3.

overall i would recommand to drop highlander out, for c1 pelt.
will allow you to block with shield holding C.
which is extreamly usefull.
it will basicly allow you to dps even more since you will be able to block boss attack instead of getting knocked down every second.

if you’ love 2handed swords i’d suggest c2 doppel will specialize fully on it, but swords are kind of bad overall against plate, so you can do c1 doppel>dragoon. and get both 2h sword + spears.

welcome to the game, if you have any more questions i’ can help.
I personally go barb3>doppel1>dragoon myself. and already on the doppel1 part.

#4

if youre going 2h swords you wont really need con, just alot of dex and alot of str, and wear leather

#5

Erm not really actually…cause Doppel’s Deed of Valor requires you to get hit to get a stack…wearing leather and having a lot of dex will gives u a lot of evasion which means it will be hard for Doppel to stack Deed of Valor.

#6

Thanks! Very informative. But umm… now I’m not quite sure what to go with, 1-handed or 2-handed sword or spear? What do you suggest with the in-depth build? I’m leaning towards 2H sword do you think it’s a viable build for the H>B3>D compared to the 1H one?

#7

Could you explain why is that so? Thanks.

#8

I see, so therefore I should wear heavy armor as well as cut down on the DEX and invest in STR? Or completely cut down on the DEX? Thanks for your answer.

#9

If you don’t go pelta 1, you will find yourself uninvited to ANY grind parties. You will not match a wizard or an archer’s damage, however barbarians stuns are nice regardless.

I would suggest taking that 1 peltasta for the utility, you will regret it otherwise.

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#10

Pls don’t go without Peltasta. You’ll lose more than you earn by taking highlander. If you really want a good char for PvE, take Sw1-Pelt1-Barb3 + Cor2/Doppel2/Cor1-Doppel1. Corsair version will also be useful in PvP.

#11

dont go with peltesta if you don’t want too. the stupid party behaviour where swordman is just there to block and tank will soon be over.

Highlander gives you the ability to block with 2h swords and crown. Arguably useful as well.

With S1 H1 B3 you can either go into doppel 1 & 2 or corsair 1 & 2.

Doppel arguably does more damage thanks to overpowered cyclone ± DOV. Cosair can steal money and loot for the whole party, boost the party dmg slightly. DWA and hexen dropper just dont make up for cyclone/DoV unfortunately

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#12

I think the party limit+bonus for having 1 of each class is hurting swordsman in this area. Swordsman doesnt have to block and tank true, but parties will be more efficient with a pelt (even as a dps swords) because it is the only taunt we have in the game. When the game gets massive raids and huge guild wars DPS swordsmen will shine.

#13

source?

OP: Get peltasta c1 or you will regret it. Don’t blindly follow these so-called “overpowered” highlander/barb builds. It will be fun at first, but nobody will want to play with you in late game.

#14

As a Sword-Highlander-Barb3 : solo game is fun, until you get to late game, where you’re just a low-tier DPS. Anyone will prefer having a peltasta and a real dps (wiz3ele3lock for example) than a sword-high-barb3-whatever.
You can’t pvp either if you don’t get cataphract.

But if you wanna have fun solo for a good part of the game, it’s decent. You just have to know you’ll be somewhat crap from rank 6 to the end.

#15

Its just so stupid that the Barbarian Taunt is so weak in comparaison to the pelasta one…

And yea i m starting to be real worried seeing what all the user on this forum are writting about Sword being useless if not taling pelasta (i didn’t so…)

#16

In RO not everyone played a wizard either or dagger assassin… People played what they wanted. Was it ever a problem? no.

#17

When you get to level 200+ and facing 80k+ HP mobs, you have 2 choices:

1 - Continue soloing with your Sword > Highlander > Barb 3 > Doppel and sit down for 5 mins to recover HP every 10 monsters you kill (because magic mobs and their homing missiles that can’t be dodged)

OR

2 - Find a party and level 3 times faster.

Guess what? Option 2 is not available because nobody wants you in their party because u don’t have Peltasta. Parties rather pick Wizards and Archers because they do more damage and take less damage due to being ranged.

Which leads you back to option 1, or option 3 = reroll.

#18

Open 4 = make party. hrhr :->

#19

Yeah, and have nobody join.
Clerics rather heal an actual tank that’s pulling mobs with Swash Buckling and speeding up the entire levelling process than having to heal a dead weight subpar dps.

#20

meanwhile in new patch in kToS. hamsters are coming :smiley:

no buffs to swordies :frowning:

#21

You don’t have to worry about this !!

you are going to use both 1handed + 2handed with WEAPON SWAP.

another reason why everyone say it’s best to get peltasta C1:.

I use 1hand swod+shield, block + taunt when needed.
swap to 2handed to unleash my power, and skills. using the key ’ ~ ’ to swap weapon easly.

for going Doppel, I suggest not to invest too much on dex for deeds of valor proc.
if you want more accurate stats point suggestion i would tell you this :.
100dex, 50~80con, rest into STR.

reason for dex on 100 = little bit of evasion, to increase with guardian(18%+ evsaion peltasta C1 skill). Along with accuracy to hit evading monsters, and semi-decent crit for early levels.

reason for 50~80 = MAGIC DMG. it hurts ! so far 50con has proven enough for me to take some magic hits while my paladin friend buff / and heal me while mobbing them. so that solve magic problem so far as I can see.

STR = the most important stat for swordsman. now alot of people may think “why STR it’s waste swordsman have no scaling skills” . THEY ARE WRONG. they didn’t think this all the way to really understand.

  • reasons :.
    Swordsman does have scaling. by armor type, and also doppel skill.

let’s say you have 100ATK. you attack monster with 0 defense, 0 evasion, 0 stats basicly.
Using sword on cloth +50% dmg. = 150atk
Using spear on leather +50% dmg. = " "
Using blunt on plate +50% dmg. = " "
And same goes for penality.

add weapon bonus% + skill high base dmg + doppel% + STR =
and you will most likely end up HIGH TIER DPS.

( for those want to argue, YES you right, archer and wizard have easier time throwing DPS out. but not dealing MORE. )

Source : http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/Damage_Type

As you can see we get bonus, while other such archer get penality mostly.