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Now I understand why ppl said Agny too crazy

Can you tell me the reason why you like warlock? Just a heads up that its bad in pve even with linker.

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it’s don’t matter if agni is op for pyro because fire healing mobs and fire immune mobs make me cry. I went into uphill for the first time a few days ago (solo) and I only got to 21 because fire immune or fire healing mobs overwhelmed the thingy I was supposed to protect. imo if you want to be a dps you will need more than pyro if there are any fire immune or fire healing mobs. I bet my dievdirbys can solo it pfft. no owl knockback now too yay.

I don’t know why people are complaining about Agny. I hope everybody makes a pyro3 so all my mission runs can go faster. Agny is literally making more people do missions so the queue times are really short.

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I can assume that they became salty when seeing their OP char is no longer number (1) when boss killing after the introduction of Agny, so they start ranting.

Players rant when they see others strong in PvE. Our enemies are the monsters , the AI, the NPC… I have no idea where the hate comes from.

Oh wait, we should blame IMC for introducing the ranking system in terms of DPS. It’s not the saltiness causing it :x

Maybe IMC should nerf everyone to 1 hp, 1 atk, 1 heal, 1 def, 1 mdef. All 1’s and all is fair xD

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agni not that OP. they just need to rework other low rank classes imo. A lot of them got too much CD, underwhelming damage, and lack of multi hits.

Be happy with Agny, guys. Later IMC will increase mobs ele resist like what they have done with holy and dark. Remove Agny? No need. Just need to adjust mobs fire resist at some places if it is too OP.

As they have said, low rank classes like pyro are being forgoten. I strongly approve the idea that wizard who is specific on 1 element should be more powerful with their elemental skills than people who are using many elements at a same time. It is nonsense when you are a fire master and your skills are much weaker than Prominence and Meteor of Elementalist.

This make players consider when taking their path: you want to be strong, you have to focus on 1 element. If you want to use many elements at a same time, you must sacrifice a part of your DPS.

already have mobs that heal with fire attack :sunglasses: 115 is famous for that

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Except that’s not how it works at all. Agny buffes PD’s Incineration to crazy damage. Agny makes pyro stronger than R7 wizard DPS classes Warlock and Featherfoot, which, by the way, specialize in dark and poison property, respectively. Also, this is not a wizard tree thing only, agny makes pyro better than probably any other DPS class from any tree, the only exceptions I can think of are Taoist and Fencer, these 2 are single target DPS so they end up losing anyway.

So, that argument doesn’t apply unless a bunch of skills are changed.

That’s easy for imc; just release dark and poison boosting necklaces :sunglasses:

It would’ve been kind of fine if all necklaces got released at the same time with reasonable numbers, but then all physical classes would be ■■■■ again, so, really, the real solution is adding proper scaling to all skills, not these silly items.

the elets in demon prison and uphill(uphell) defence heal from your fire damage spells.

pyros cant dps in uphill defense because of this.

Dark Theurge and Invocation. I miss both of them. I used to just Hold my Templeshooter in once place while I run around with DT and Invo. Why is it considered bad in pve? I enjoy using it with my past build so was thinking of making a new wiz with it with Pyro3 again.

Gotcha, I have a bunch of superior abrasives for maybe 4 6* gems. What were your gears at 270+? So i can save up. I really want to use my stat reset to go full INT but I know I need to gear up before I do that.

Right now you don’t need those element healing monsters either, just take a look at the mage monsters in 290 dungeon.

Decently high mdef… check
Resists fire element… check
Resists Joint Penalty… check

Good luck trying to kill it with a pyro…

Oh so this is only a dine bee and demon prison farmer thats why you aim for warlock 2. That makes sense because if you take warlock 2 for rank 8 content and not for farming in low level maps then let me tell you a bad news. There are better options tbh. Well its still good in low level farming and carry anyway so carry on. kakaka

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This is the old traditional thought that IMC wants to remove. Why can’t players take pyro for end-game contents? They want to be fire master, not poison or dark. This thought forces players to follow the meta if they don’t want to be too underpower. Why must they go Featherfoot or warlock at end-game? Why can’t they take like Pyro Linker or so? Higher rank classes have high base damage skills so low rank classes like Pyro should have something to boost their power at higher level. The level requirement of this necklace maybe not suitable yet but its existance is totally suitable.

Finally, after a long time testing on kTOS and IMC decided to bring Agny here. It may get nerf in some aspects but won’t be removed from this game.

Er, I don’t farm in Dina Bee or Demon Prison. Actually, I don’t farm at all. Nor do I grind. I just do my quests alone, do my 3 missions and 3 dungeon runs then log off. I have 2 characters right now and I’m planning to do my 3rd. I’m not aiming to be the best dps character, just looking for good options with the kind of playstyle I enjoy. You don’t have to be condescending. I was genuinely asking why WL2 is considered bad for rank8 content. If it’s because there are better options, what kind of options would you suggest if I like this kind of playstyle?

although i hate agny cheap way to boost pyro, but it make me feel enjoy to play as wizard again. pyro is the class that hv most skills to use depend on situation (useful i mean), elememe was literally just qc+fc.

it is op before 300, but it is not after that, those mdef and hp are insane

pyro also the class that synergy well with many builds, linker/chrono/thauma/cryo. being pyro2/3 at early rank, i cn simply integrate any build or hybrid n it still fun.

looking elememe frostcloud only and ff/wl pitiful single target and melee range, imc definately need more tweak on many wizard classes.