As long you get 70% attributes on these skills they’re good enough to go for most cases. It’s not really expensive since they are lower rank.
Which goes back to the point. It’s bad scaling. Lol. Unlike QS 3 that has single target running shot spike which requires 0 attributes as well just Specific gear.
It’s pretty much the same but the cost price is lesser but due fact is RNG.
That extra 15 points gave you maximize barrage, steady aim + 2 of the new R3 skill.
Wll it be really used that much in R8?
Due to the fact RS3 just stampede over everything is what i wanted to say you can drop it if you want? Any suggestion if we drop R3 what could we get for offer? @_@
Spiral to 70 is nearly 7m though gotta agree the rest look cheap due to it being Circle 2 R2 achievable about 3.5m?
imo i rather spend that 7m hammering that manamana. Insert Puke rainbows here.
I invested in all of my circles. My oblique shot is 70, same as barrage and heavy shot, multi shot is 80, same as retreat shot and concentrated fire is at 60. I also got double sissels and max peta. As long as you actually play and are a bit lucky, you can do it
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Not so much in the luck department here… sooo… woulda just skip what i can and go for core 
Well. With few days on dun145 you can get any Ranger attributes to 70%… there are people doing saalus for months and no Didel Grand Cross.
Not that I’m saying you’re wrong or etc (don’t get me wrong). I’m just trying to put another point of view to prevent “X thing is right” without considering the Y thing or the Z thing.
Also, SR 3 only gets one new skill. You will still have our big problem: long cooldowns. You need to rely on your other skills too.
Both QS 3 and Ranger 3 and other variants works. But saying Ranger 3 skills doesn’t scale well isn’t truth, they do scale well.
On the other hand:
I don’t think we can double/triple running shot damage/wugushi poison like we can do with Ranger skills with proper debuffs/buffs.
Lol I’m on the other side tbh. x3 petas, x3 ardes, battle bracelet and animus here xD
Oh, I forgot to mention. My spiral arrow does 20k dmg. but if I full draw 2 mobs, the mob linked to the one I hit gets 100k-ish dmg, which is pretty good
Shhh. Don’t spread Archer+Ranger’s secret!!! Joke. Full Draw works to scale nicely most things (which somehow doesn’t apply to QS/Wugushi variants).
(Does Full Draw these combos works with Rogue variants?)
Nice that’s great to hear.
I get you. After all Ranger 3 is a early tier accessible.
lel. the full draw “mechanics” was pretty well known already though most of the community close a blind eye and forget about it @_@.
As for the second part no idea. i think opting for 1 rank of rouge might work as well since barrage +feint combo is infamous as well.
Guess it depends on which variant and ping you are playing on lol also the amount of funding insert puke rainbow
I don’t really like Barrage+Feint because Feint makes you dismount :<
that’s true the upset shiet about dismounting is your stupid pet AI mount ran out and then get koed/stuned by enemy and you will be render dismounted for a truck of time rofl.
irritating as fk. haha
@LunarRabbit
Ever tried linking someone to their pets and spiral shotting the pet? That ohko is the most satisfying thing ever 
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I did a lot of things with Full Draw… I’ve already made Mango angry by full drawing mobs into ET objectives with this sole act messing up our entire run. :x
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I was only refering to mob, not to kill.
ranger is better with SR, 20% damage scales pretty damn good at rank 8.
QS SR seems fun, but with QS its basically only for running shot because most other skills are either useless or can’t be used mounted, ranger 3’s seems better even for GvG and PvP
hmm, i really like running shot, but steady aim looks much better for SR.
tnx i think i will go with R3 A2 SR3
This is not true. Pavise is awesome for retreat shot. Scatter caltrops is always awesome for cc and pvp and stone shot is great for pvp as well. Both builds are great with SR
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i didn’t say its bad i said it unmounts you.
besides, the original poster is looking for ET and farming and not pvp, ranger is better at farming and overall damage.
yea i wouldn’t take QS for farming. not when you can get steady aim with SR’s skills
From what I heard (and what tosbase also says), only pavise dismounts you so you barely lose much potential from QS
3 skills from QS dismount you, Stone Pick, Pavise and TearDown, but this are just situational skills.
Since Pavise can last for more than 50 secs, you just put those 2 shields before engaging and then run in circles while doing DPS with Running Shot, then you just try to lure the enemy near to a wall or something, throw the caltrops over them and while the enemy is on CC you can destroy them with Retreat Shot.
I really like this style better than the Ranger.
I have 2 archers
A1 > R3 > A2 > Falcon > Cannon
A1 > QS3 > A2 > SR2
and i really think that the QS3 play style is pretty strong, you just need to understand its mechanics, and that’s something that the Ranger doesn’t have because is just a Burst Class
I completely disregarded stone pick because you’d usually use it before engaging a fight and not during it, and teardown because it’s too situational; but everything you said is true. There’s much more things one can do as a QS