If they ever remove bots, there will be a huge change in “player” population and market prices.
How? We probably have less than 100 bots active in the game if you sum up all the servers.
I firmly believe this is one of the few games that managed to keep inflation on check. Other grind games have the prices multiply by like x100 every year.
Looks like you’ve been crying for 2 years instead of playing the damn game.
It is pretty apparent that you are using the bots to justify your lackings so i won’t even bother, we think and act on two different levels.
But higher rank skills have attributes as well which makes lower rank worthless again :S
Im just waiting for the “master” circle to come with something like enhacing the power of the low rank skills since +60% isn’t enough for a skill like double slash or earthquake (at least the last one will be boosted by the new necklaces)
I think that same way somehow but for Sorc and Necro only will not receive any silver if their summon defeated monsters, then most of bots that farming silver should be disappear soon because no reason to use it anymore [this idea not included rare farm bot]
Well, it just an idea, quite bad for good players who play those class but in the other hand… they are still have many good farm class left in this game for WIZ class [linker-trauma-Shadow-FF…]
Telsiai alone, I can easily spot 200 bots. I’d say about 400-500 total for all servers.
The damage they do is massive. Including that guy selling Kitchen Knife for 200m and Panto horns for 150m.
And those crystal mine ores which is a common RMT item, very easy to spot with the addon.
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Which addon, the market names addon isn’t working for me.
What is the addon that everyone is using to see the names of the sellers?
Market Names, iirc you have to meet the person in game for the name to show.
That explains why it isn’t showing anything for me…I always hide on ch8 klappy .-.
dudes either a botter himself or delusional
botters are starting to take over places like sausys9 in telsiai, the spawn rate there is so dense they get stuck in certain areas killing mobs, so leveling there is bearable, even if you cant go to the best spots.
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Back then Solmiki didn’t exist.
And some people cannot even do Solmiki.
And most of all: was it even my point ? No. Are you seriously ignoring the main point I’m bringing up to focus on an example ? Was I asking for another necklace to use or whatever ? No.
The point is that things are useless difficult to get even if you try to farm it for months. Which is typical of IMC: things aren’t challenging in the sense of difficult, it’s just “challenging” because it’s luck, RNG, or you simply have to do it forever. And since the combat system isn’t interesting to start with… much fun, indeed, much fun.
But if you enjoy it this way, good for you. Apparently the thousands of people who quit didn’t. To each their own, huh.
And yes, the skills, the stupid way fighting works, how stupidly weak enemies are, etc., are just some of the issues. So is the fact that your life in this game depends mostly on silver rather than you simply playing. Which is why people RMT so much. It’s not just whales or shady people: a lot of casual, lambda people also RMT. Why wouldn’t they anyway ? Not only it’s not punished, and it’s way faster to spend a few $ to buy X item than to spend forever doing mindless farming silver and/or drops.
Especially if you want something from an instance which have a limit on runs. Gotta limit the amount of Talts or Mystery Cubes people can get in a day, after all.
@GadenRhoss
If you call “in check” the fact that prices triple every few months… Okay. And for some servers it’s even more. Some other games are even worse and have their prices that get multiplied by 100 every year ? Do I look like I care how terrible some other games can be ? If you want we can also compare it to other grind games who do it much better but what does it bring to the conversation ? What does it change for TOS ? Nothing.
@Veldt
“Market Names”. It’s still working. Although you’ll have to “meet” one of the characters of the players in map for it to appear on the market. Easy to do if you’re a regular player, though.
Shards have been the same for almost 1 year, the market has adjusted to the game changes, it’s not raising for the botting, cards are the same price too. Prices naturally became a bit higher because people can do carry saaluses + runs and they get money on each daily run. You do realize that other games with bot problems have inflations of like 1000% over a year right?
nothing else to resort with but insults huh?
observing wild bots in their natural habitat is amusing.
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As I said before in the topic I created, the impact of the bots are as follows in a mmorpg.
1 - Monopolisation of spots preventing the leveling of normal players.
2- creation of “SUPER PLAYERS”, after all these players will have money to have everything the game provides quickly and without the need of grind.
3 - destruction of the game economy. Due to the fact that silver is not a problem, since they buy as much as they want from the gold sellers, these Super Players pay fortunes for items of rare drop in the game, and this creates a vicious and endless cycle, after all the news that an iten x was sold for a generous amount, quickly spreads, and the next one that drop the iten x would also sell for this amount. Therefore, since the game does not provide a quick gain of silver, more players will seek a faster source to reach the competitive, and it is at this time that many players start looking for these gold sellers.
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Ya’ll are funny.
You really think -ALL- the whales buy silver from bots?
Where do you think the cash shop stuff on the market comes from?
You really think they’re destroying the game economy?
Who are the people farming these rare item drops that the ‘SUPER PLAYERS’ are buying?
Someone has to be farming the UBER DROPZZZ11!1! in the first place.
Maybe you should start being the ones farming, instead of the ones whining?
The only thing irritating that I can see is the monopolization of farm spots.
Aaaand i’m pretty sure that if the bots leave, there’ll be player drama over who gets to what spot first.
Here’s what you need to do.
- Make a thaum farmer
- Upgrade a cheap bad stat berthas / primus (QUIT THINKING YOU NEED THE MAX STAT LINE ONE)
- Go farm HGs for weapons for other classes
- Make a proper team setup.
- Go farm some masinos
- Sell to whales.
- PROFIT
OH WAIT. THATS TOO HARD. Forum whine is easier. IMC PLZ HANDOUTS.
200 bots on ONE SERVER. Gaining 500-700 silver per mob at a high chance.
If you think this isn’t a major issue idk, I don’t want to call you dumb but ok
PS, I know how these bots work. I have a friend that RMTs and they have about 6b in stock in different characters.
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I’m not saying that the bots aren’t an issue.
I’m referring to all the uber items that these ‘Super Players’ are buying.
It’s part of the issue though, where did the super player get their “silver?” spreading it all out causing more inflation?
I’m a bit worried that my RMTing friend bought 1.2b in like 1 day? I mean if he a NEWBIE already bought that much, what more could others do lmao
Not solely from the bots, though.
If my math isn’t wrong, its actually about the same Real $ price (albeit a little slower) to do TP > Token/Cube conversion to silver. In which case, the silver would come from other players.
There’s a bunch of disclaimers on the RMT sites about how they don’t pay for ingame market fees (which’ll set you back 10%, gotta factor that in).
In fact, if you’re ‘lucky’ with cubes/boxes, its cheaper to buy cubes.
Yes not solely from bots, never said that.
But never forget, these abominations cause major inflation via silvers that you aren’t supposed to get because you’re not actively playing.
Quite sad to see bots increasing in number, even having the balls to bot using masi bow because they know they’ll get ignored. Keeping it up this way means we’ll reach 300 bot count soon. Sausys 9 alone already has 10 bots. These things can farm and roll a good primus gear while they’re at it getting silvers…
And don’t forget shinies. White shinies are very common and are about 50-60k silver. And for sure out of all those bots scattered in maps there will be golden mobs dropping 500k silver.
so yes it isn’t solely from bots, but they do a very major part in inflation while also contesting for tokens which gives money to legit RMT
Oh and sorry If I’m starting to become rude with my replies, I’ve hated bots for a long time now, and I want to take every chance of obliterating them.
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