Wait til you meet Blue Spion Archer at Nahash Forest <3 Spiral Arrow~
They are definitely overpowered lol.
You can’t evade magic attacks, a lot of mobs will be hitting you over 3k dmg and you won’t be able to dodge that.
I finally made it.
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so i made the bold (stupid?) decision to take sw2 instead of pelt following a more or less standard build
Sword2 > Hop2 > Cor2 > Shinobi
My Build WIP
how would my leveling be at later levels? i am about to hit corsair and currently lv120+
while most parties dont seem to mind me not being a tank, i’m kinda worried at later levels 200+ where parties basically require swashbuckling
Hi, ive been trying to decide which direction i want to take my swordsman.
Ive always had the thought that you either make a pve character or a pvp character. otherwise you will just be average at both.
Anyway, i thought of this build that may be good for both and it involves shinobi. How well do you think it would work?
Its mostly built like a dragoon build, but has shinobi there.
for pvp, It doesnt have stuns or anything, but i figure with the bind attributes on mokoton no jutsu and spear throw it will make me able to get off a full cyclone or stabbing on them to do quite a bit of damage. The attributes on the shinobi skills that make you hide just seem really for for pvp.
for pve, it has peltasta which partys like to have and it may be good for bosses with cyclone, pierce, maybe the clone skill with kunai would be good dps.
The only thing im not sure on is if this build could be good for solo farming or not. Maybe the build just isnt good at all since i dont have much experience with swordsman. I would be pretty much stuck to 1h spear and either shield or dagger, but thats fine with me since i can use more green gems to bring up crit rate pretty high.
Any thoughts would be appericated. go for it? back to the drawing board?
Edit i read through some of these thousand posts and saw some people already had the same idea…
Hoplite 3 is bad for pvp atm because of the difficulty in using long stride and spear throw on a moving opponent
Same goes for Mokuton because the hidden mechanic of that thing’s bind is that the bind is gone after hitting once on the opponent
If you’re seriously looking for a balanced PVE/PVP then I suggest you go [Hop C1 and Cata 3] OR [Hop C2 and Cata 2] all the way to Dragoon.
Do mind that Cata3 makes your build superb in PVP while having Hop2 instead will curb your DPS to be aligned more on PVE.
Shinobi is not for everyone I tell you
It requires huge patience, time, and investment
It is not for people who are looking to have an easy fun life but for people who find fun through the hard way/non-meta.
Just find a group of friends who do not discriminate.
How I picture myself while trying to do dailies on my own…
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Ahaha, but I only have Bunshin no jutsu at Lvl 1 atm.
Got my empty scroll at ch12 5.33 AM sharp at the top right side fedimian (above druid npc place). Good luck others.
Have any one here used Mijin no Jutsu on a battle PVP?? this woth it??
Hey, I have heard that this build is quite useful as an off tank. I heard that the main benefit of going hoplite with shinobi is that you can use hoplite’s peircing debuff and then use DoV and Kunai for good burst damage
I actually have the same build and I am currently at level 224 and don’t know whehter to go Shinobi or Dragoon!!!
My concern with going Shinobi is that Shinobi clones don’t make use of Hoplite skills. So, the question is, down the line when they release circle 2 Shinobi, will he be EVEN MORE reliant on Swordsman skills like double slash???
As it stands, i do not like that clones ONLY COPY SWORDSMAN skills (not hoplite skills). To me this seems like Shinobi was simply not meant to have hoplite within its build.
This is how it appears to me. It seems that in TOS, certain classes jive with certain classes. There is an affinity between classes. It seems also like Dragoon is a natural progression of hoplite / cata as they both rely on spears. I wonder if I will regret putting Dopple in my build, as now I DEFINITELY can’t get Cataphract, as Cata DOES NOT use cyclone.
I think we need to be more cautious of these class synergies. They seem intuitive, but it’s tempting to want to branch out and experiment.
Anyway, I have heard that the build you posted above is good for farming and burst damage, and who knows, the Kunai + DoV + Pierce debuff could be EVEN MORE effective than double slash shinobi, I don’t know. There is also a chance that the devs make shinobi’s clones copy Hoplite skills in the future.
If Shinobi does not jive with Hoplite, then this doesn’t make sense to me. As it stands, I am Level 224 with the above build and waiting to decide which path i will go, shinobi or dragoon. I’m on the fence and would love to hear some feedback from this community.
Ive actually thought about it more and decided to go with swordsman>peltasta>hoplite2>corsair2>shinobi
I lose out on 50 crit from finestra, cyclone and deeds of valor, but the corsair skills seem like a good tradeoff. I will also be a pirate ninja which i think is cool. Wish i could get c2 swordsman for restrain, but i think id rather have a taunt and the ability to block. 18% evasion from guardian seems nice too.
I cant really help on which to choose since i believe either one could be a good choice. Hopefully someone can give better advice.
Clue: DoV only procs when you are hit by an attack. Not when you are doing the hits.
The way i see it, you get one stack when you activate it. If you use mokon no jutsu and get hit its another stack. Then you will appear next to them and they will be binded so you can get off the combo he is talking about. so 20% bonus is easy at least.
Another clue: Mokuton doesn’t nullify the damage and status effect that you take from any attack. It’s also 85% innaccurate and buggy. The bind also immediately dissipates after 1 attack which I wish IMC would seriously change.
I’m like you, I like to be different, even if I fail. I hate the Bushin no Jutsu
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Sw c3 High c2 Fencer Shinobi
It can work?
I’m not so sure about this but Hidden Classes are to get only 1 Rank. Look at Chaplains, it’s a Rank 5 hidden class but you don’t see C2 or C3 Chaps.
What do you guys think of a Shinobi without Bunshin? Planning to make a 2h sword shinobi with either High3 or Barb3 + Doppel. Damage is priority by getting Kunai, Katon and Mijin. Question is are the skills damages buggy? Or just the skill attributes around it. I know Bunshin has the highest possible burst but I don’t like the risk it entails.
BTW this is for PvE. I know without Pelt i’ll have troubles but fck em all. 
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