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New Vaivora Bow:Mergen and updated Vaivora Bow:Fletcher

ktest downfall ART? absolutely!
ktos downfall art? no, reason:

  1. need 15 level
  2. need higher AOE attack requirement than triple arrow (triple need 20)
  3. chanelling skill, cant move
  4. DPS wise, even with ART the DPS is low. 34 hit x225% /10sec CD = 765% DPS for lv 15 (+60%= 1224% DPS)
    New homing arrow has highest DPS of all mergen skills

Yea the level 1 scaling for the initial downfall art was too good. I really wanted to move away from homing arrow and go back to my old pre-rebuild mergen with a lot of points in arrow sprinkle.

I hope they make an auto switch for some of these things so I can have both vaivora bows without manually pressing the weapon swap key or use another hotkey to put the weapon.

Weapon swapping is so buggy too I do it on my hunter alt. Half of the time I swap to cast a hunter skill, the weapon unequips.

Garbage.

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Ah so true I thought just me

Bad imc, cancel the dex become str in fletcher vaivora bow,

not cancel, just that itos patch hasnt reach that far

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Assuming we stay on fletcher VVR, would you guys prefer Punishment Ark over thunder ark?

I think it’s a bit of a tougher decision for mergen-fletcher builds because we have a balance of fake multihits and real multi hits.

In Ktos or Ktest, Mergen-Fletcher have any chance in PvP?

Orbital Bow user in Telsiai here - just want to say that Arrow Sprinkle absolutely destroys CM7.
Full arts + Arrow Sprinkle Gem SFR is just crazy.

It also blends well with annoying pvp peps when u try Pied combo with stun then sprinkle dem like artillery barrage ez.

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darknights?
can you post here final SFR of your arrow sprinkle?
how good is that bow for bossing situation like WBR?

Arrow sprinkle lv 13
484%
lv 100 enhance 774%
lv 20 ART 967%

do you use arrow sprinkle: Barrage Art too?

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this just in! http://m.inven.co.kr/board/tos/4196/111971

Goddess armor:Dalia (channeling set)
Per item:
+100% damage for channeled skills [max +400%]
-5% damage during channeling [max -20%]
4 set effect: -20% cooldown for channeled skills

Dalia + Downfall ART

Downfall normal CD 20s
with art -10s
adding Dalia set (20% of 20s) =6s CD!! (as seen on above video)

Downfall lv 15+ART, 225% SFR x34 hit /6s CD
DPS=1275%
If +400% damage from dalia set is adding to final damage
DPS 1275+400%=6375% (lv 0 enhance+lv 0 ART enhance)

but they gonna rework mergen anyway, sorry to let your hopes up

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I like the rework actually, for the ranger part.

The class has no offensive identity unlike barb which works similarly to ranger, all barb fillers are worthy of using and for ranger, only barrage does good damage after applying slow, getting arts, and maxing everything.

idk why they chose fletcher and mergen as part of the rework, imo only cooldowns/some sfrs need to be rebalanced for these.

Mergen need rework attribute and art, i mean increase range basic attack for what? before patch they deleting bow bonus damage vs fly monster , some buff skill is good too because mergen dont have any buff skill or debuff skill

If they’re reworking those only, that’s fine. I thought it’s some major rework since it was announced. Normally they don’t announce and just pop off with art/attribute updates with these things

i can accept boost, but cant tolerate nerf

This isn’t the right attitude you should have. Balancing should be just that, a balance. If all IMC ever does is buff, you eventually just get inflated numbers and every time they “balance” dmg just keeps going up. They’ll just up the dmg cap and then everyone does 50m dmg per hit and everyone is at 50k sfr, etc. It gets pretty bad.

They already have inflated so much, they should look to do a stat squish soon. Possibly when they rework the servers and everything.

But that’s long term thinking, I don’t think imc realizes that this is what will inevitably happen if all they do is just up sfr.

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isnt this the time for bow user to catch up to musket and cannoner brother? until that checkpoint reached/passed, no nerf needed, balance for all archer tree branch

Yes. But the thinking of just “buff only” and in this isolated thinking will lead to huge inflation.

Let’s say they give all our skills 2x sfr. Well then musket, cannon, etc fall behind, and then a few months later they get sfr boosts. Well everyone will just be hitting 10m, and that’s boring, so IMC will up the cap to 20m. But then you get disparity because not everyone can hit that then you get complaints and more sfr buffs.

Soon you’re doing 50m dmg hits but someone doing 49m will complain.

Balancing isn’t just a numbers thing, which unfortunately is what IMC is most likely going to do. It’s sad, but it’s such a poor way to balance. I have very little confidence in IMC for a while, I just can’t see them ever approaching class balancing in a meaningful way.

They needa look at things for wholistically. They just keep putting bandaids over everything and you can already tell it’s backfiring.

lets not derail further from the title of this thread.

Does anyone from here got a video using VVR orbital on CM? Thanks in advance