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#44

Honestly you killed GVG because only the top 3 guilds will participate.Have you not notice that is always the same top 4 guilds that always keep their GVG rank position week after week.Smaller and weak guilds will never ever play GvG anymore because at least with the TP rewards 10 guilds have a chance of getting something but now only 3 guilds.

Moreover,the rewards aren’t that much different from first to third place LMAO.Give is more like Guild EXP,PVP points or some GVG currency that has a separate shop from the TBL.Also give ranks 1-10 rewards instead of just the top 3.

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#45

Tell me please those colors won’t be a thing from now on… those armbands are quite bad… I don’t want to see ppl with such hair colors and stuff…

#46

I doubt that it kills it, why wouldn’t people play for fun? :confused:

Then again they should definitely add something like the pvp points from gvg as well so everyone gets something from going. :slight_smile:

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#48

Because have you not notice people are tired of getting steamrolled by the top guilds over and over.At least back then they had hopes to get some reward if they manage to be on the top 10.

Most small guilds and weak guilds were doing GVG because they had 1-10 rank rewards.Why would they GVG and get crush over and over for crap rewards and for rewards that they will never get.

Look at the GVG ranks ever since GVG came out,the top guilds always remain at their same rank position every week.Only the top guilds will find it fun to compete but the small guilds hate losing 24/7 and will lose interest in GVG.

Why you think they gave us 2 sessions instead of one,because they want the those weak guilds to try to dodge and avoid the big guilds to have their “fun” by facing another weak guilds.Because IMC knows if we had 1 session,only the big and strong guilds will Q and the small/weak guild will wait until all those guilds finish their GVG/per day to start Qing and propably won’t Q at all depending on how long the battles between the strong guilds.

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#49

I dont think a lot of players will actually do GvG, if it is as bugged as before there is honestly no reason at all to waste your time for such rewards.

I think it was a good move to remove TP as a reward, but the new rewards are nothing more then another “We dont care about you” from IMC.

The Armband is not well designed, the Box is actually kind of funny but the potion… srsly?
Not going to waste time for that, if IMC would have thought about it a little bit more they could have removed TP as a reward and would have put talts instead of it.

Thats is a reasonable reward for GvG, cause we can use it to upgrade our guilds, or put in Petfood, recipes for the guild items (cause the missions are still bugged as hell).
Another fun thing would have been a Flag or so for the guildtower, bonus tickets for the guildmissions (if they fix those), removing of the warpcosts when u use the guildtower or whatever.

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#50

Players used to play gvg just for the TP. Without it, 0% of guilds gonna play that shitty bg.

What’s the next step? Remove the abrasives from pvp points?.

I’m really sorry, but there’s no functional pvp in this game.

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#51

Give us exclusive Coat/Cloaks instead of armbands for the winners.If you guys notice there is a “Coat” section under the Market House under Armor.

@STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Max @STAFF_John @staff

Or like I said a new GVG currency with a GVG shop with this list

  • Talt
  • Cosmetics
  • EXP Guild Card
  • Titles
  • Pets/Companions
  • Guild Mission Tickets
  • Guild Tower
  • Guild Forge/Shield Charger Recipe (Need to do Guild missions to get the mats)
  • PVP points
  • Emoticons/Gestures
  • EXP tomes
  • Exchange Medals
  • Cookies
  • Dumplings
  • Aura’s (Really expensive)
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#52

Pretty much agree that only few players will actually participate in GvG.

Why do guilds actually plays GvG? I could say the main reasons are:

  1. The PvP part of the game.
  2. Rewards for effort.

On “Rewards” ask again, “What do players do with the GvG TP?”

From my point of view in a priority ordering:

  1. Buy x8 tomes and other leveling items.
  2. Buy Enchant Scrolls to try to get better hats.
  3. Buy TP stuff to sell.
  4. Buy Tokens or Costumes.
  5. Skill Reset potions.

So, how can we still get worthy rewards without the TP?

  1. A reasonable amount of Dumplings and/or Cookies for Top 1-10 guilds, varying by rank. Or some x4 or x8 (14 days) Exp Tomes, should also consider Dungeon Reset Instance (3 instances).

  2. Few Exchange Medals instead of TP, so players can only buy the outdated stuff that are mainly cosmetic. This also have a benefit of making some stuff there useful, such as the bracelets that are never used.

  3. 1-3 Enchant Scroll (14 days).

  4. A separate GvG currency such as TBL ones.

  5. Exclusive and worthy GvG costumes such as @Loztchild idea.

  6. Permanent gimmick-only items as reward, or at least something consumable but really useful with random rewards, such as Dumpling, Cookie, Exp Tome x1/x4/x8, Dungeon Instance Reset, Enchant Scroll, 10 TP.

  7. Make Skill Reset potions available with GvG currency or give one to guilds on top 1-3 monthly or as seasonal reward.

Why Skill Reset potions? We’re talking about PvP/GvG which involves a lot of skill/scenario testing. A few players resets skill based on new mechanics, skills being fixed or balance changes. While it also affects PvE, in PvP these skill changes greatly affect the outcome of a match.

Also, please note that any leveling item (Exp Tome, Dumpling, Dungeon Instance Reset) obtained in GvG should go to the users’ Message Box because there’s no point in getting Dumplings or Cookies on a Lv.330 character.

@STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Ethan one last thing: In kTOS is the Paper Box an permanent event item or a time-expired one? I won’t say that the Paper Box is a bad reward but the Paper Box alone it is pretty much useless. Some players always wanted to have it in a similar way as kTOS, a permanent reward by participating in an event.

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#53

I’m fine changing GvG rewards for real, but makes me wonder;
If there aren’t many tokens on market right now and each one rounds about 2m, I wonder which will be their price when people stop receiving those TP’s for free.

Probably that’s what some people compared early on as a token being a monthly subscription, I guess.

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#54

The reward are indeed really lame as hell, removing tp reward is good to stop wintrading, but on the other hand its also good for imc cuz no more free tps will be given, and they are forcing people to buy tps, which obviously wont happen.

Rewards for gvg should be like following:

1.Guild vs guild first/second/third place custome(expire in 7days,before next patch)

  1. Less TPs, or reward tps according to number of guild members, guilds with less member receives less tp

  2. animation effect etc, such as TBL rank number shows in the left side of your character name.

  3. Exp tome/reset vouchers for place 3-10

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#55

Premium items have a price cap in the market. Not sure what the cap is right now.

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#56

@STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Yuri also, please keep GvG as only one session or one session right after the other. With TP rewards (more guilds participating) some big guilds already had to stay one hour in queue.

Having 30+ people to wait 2 hours in different sessions is too much if no one else queue.

Are we going to still have the same the same score system? Will guilds be able to queue against the same one more than once?

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#57

Its obvious that you guys still have not seen the real problem of the gvg. You can make it good by just doing 2 steps:

  1. Remove spectate feature in gvg or add delay. If a guild gets in a match it can be only seen by others on spectate after certain amount of time.

2.moving to char selection page no longer declines the match once the queue is found.

Easy pizi. those two steps can stop all the win-traders (People with cancer who needs more tp to pay their surgery fee)

and ofc, top-down side is just lame as hell, but compare to other problems this is nothing.

To be honest i thought it would be a massive change to gvg system since it took you guys a freaking month, but it seems only the reward is changed, the only good thing(TP) left has been removed. But drawing that armband on MSpaint took me only 2mins tho, i just tested.

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#58

Aah ok my bad, can’t disagree with that.

#59

TP wasn’t really the thing why ppl GVGed,It was because TP was a very good reward.So now TP won’t be rewarded it would be nice to have some nice rewards to compensate for it and have ppl interested.

Because I tell you this for a fact,people will continue to GVG for that fun factor,however next season or the third season a lot guilds will drop out and never do GVG again.Having the top guild staying at the same ranks for every season will discourage small/weak guilds and even if you get in the top 3 the rewards are so bad that the effort you put in to get into the top 3 does not equal to the reward.

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#60

你那麼二，你家人懂嗎？
接下來的只是為了湊足二十個字而存在

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#61

chmapion costume reward, like lol

#62

I’m really excited how this is going to work out, because I know a lot of players who already quit or rarely online because of the 5week GvG break without any reasonable feedback from IMC.

Now the crappy GvG rewards, there isnt even a difference between being number 1 or 3 except a stupid number on an armband, which im sure is going to be obscured by some comstumes again.

So there is no reason left for doing GvG Battles instead of open world GvG, no TP through GvG also means the token prizes are going to rise, fewer people can afford token through Silver… even more people will quit.

Not only because people cant pay tokens through GvG TPs anymore, but also because there is no real reason now to push a GvG Char to the max, there is no motivation to be number one… so a few players who bought TP to sell tokens for attributes and stuff wont do that anymore.

I really dont get why they didnt implement reasonable Prizes, the missing TPs dont bother me, but why not make that box permanent, and the armband, just switch the armband design after each season.

Like I mentioned before, give us Talt equal to the rank and maybe some other guildstuff, it still is GvGafter all so rewarding the guild would be good, you could even make the talts so that we can only put them into the guildtowers…

But please IMC, for once, do the right thing and change the rewards before u start the season -.-

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