cataphract+hoplite
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Lol at people complaining about âtoo many choicesâ. Now picking a lot of classes ruins the system? Letâs say you go Cleric 1 -> Krivis 1 -> Priest 1 -> Cleric 2 -> Krivis 2 -> Priest 2. Your build sucks ass, you canât deal any damage compared to R6 skills. And you do not have âevery classâ, youâre limited to the amount of ranks you got.
SoâŚin the previous system you had 6 ranks, so the max classes you can get is 6. In the new systemâŚguess what? That limit stays the same, because the number of ranks hasnât changed! So maybe think a bit before you start complaining, "backtracking isnât free you know.
Did you think of any new class combinations that are OP now? Is mixing ice with fire OP somehow? Are Bokorâs zombies somehow lethal under Dievâs statues? Please do tell.
Letâs try making an OhPee support build now, since thereâs sooo many options.
R1 Cleric 1: Bitch Iâm gonna cheat and get ALL the classes
R2 Cleric 2: All support are belong to us
R3 Cleric 3: Alright, whatâs next?
R4 Priest 1: Yeah this is so broken
R5 Priest 2: Oh waitâŚIâm almost there
R6 Priest 3: Welp I ran out of ranks, bye Krivis, Dievdyrbis, Paladin, Pardoner and Oracle T_T
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Because when choosing Cleric, Priest and Krivis as a class build core youâre definitely looking for being a big DPS⌠Owait.
Personally I thought that even if DM does not worth 10 levels on lvl 15 skills it is still good to strengthen my skills and I actually want to main a Priest and use its skills mainly so I thought even that little buff could worth something for those skills. ( âŚand maybe it still could be true but it seems rly annoying to use DM so I guess I should just rly forget it now )
I donât know what class Iâll be at the end but my new question is then⌠If lvl 25 scrolls will exist for Pardoner⌠do you think itâs worth to make them? I saw that scrolls cost a lot of money/level and you are saying that lvl 25 skills are not that good⌠so⌠Maybe I should just aim for lvl 15 scrolls?
Maybe, but currently they donât exist, and I donât think theyâll have level 25 scrolls.
Scrolls are quite expensive, and the good ones cost around ~11k each to make.
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Ok thy. I hope lvl 25 scrolls wonât exist. It would make some decisions easier for me hahaâŚ
Please post a video from CBT3 or iCBT where a class other than Cataphract, Centurion, or Schwarze Reiter is using skills while mounted. Any class was able to do this in CBT1 and 2. Heck, there are many people in this forum that has played iCBT and CBT3 and they will tell you mounted skills have been restricted to specific classes.
PVP debuted in CBT3 and thereâs a reason you ONLY see Cataphracts and Reiters mounted in PVP matches.
You sacrifice a high tier class to gain a low tier class. In order to have Pyro3 and Cryo3, you have to skip all the Rank3 -Rank7 classes. You would then have to rely on Rank 2 skills throughout the game.
We have more options but you still have to make decisions and the limited number of ranks is the regulating factor.
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Thatâs what i wanted to do / o /
@Greensburg people are just complaining 'cause they donât want to have some new class combo that they are sure will be OP as hell, even while they donât know how these classes will be nerf with this system so they arenât better than another Combo (just each combo will have their strengths and weaknesses)
@Spaghetti if i find it again iâll link it but i think they were all from CBT1/2 and the last one was form Indonesian CBT and i donât know which cleric class it was, there should be mounted classes for Cleric too so maybe it was one. After reading some posts it stake that with CBT3 they updated mount like you said, so iâm not sure. And it could have been a bug from indonesian CBT too. > iâm trying to find it it was in the Indonesian CBT facebook group if i recall correctly so itâs a long search XD
Super mature and thought through response. So if your done hating with out a decent reason the reason some people are complaining is because we feel like it has made choices easier, we enjoyed the old system forcing difficult decisions on us.
Somehow the new system does not have difficult decisions??? 
âŚYou guy should read our responses hereâŚ
More choices does not equal = difficulty. How is always having what you want hard?
Lol but your still need make difficulty choices because we have said million time here that your are gonna sacrifice a high tier class to gain a low tier classes⌠You cannot have everythingâŚ
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There will still be difficult choices you know. Not as much difficult though yep. Anyway i like the two class advancements systems. Each has his good points and bad points whatever imc games choose for this iâll be okay with it ^^
Ps: if you read most of the posts itâs about the barbarian-hoplite combo or cleric-priest combo something like that that everyone are saying âOP OP OPâ ^^â But anyway i think imcgames know better than us what they are doing with the class advancement system, and we still donât know if it will stay like that or not since itâs just a trial period.
Once again i didnât say there was not choices i am saying they are far easier to make now.
Iâve had a lengthy discussion with my GF about the Pros and Cons on the new system, she feels that the old system was better because the restrictions on the system created the need for multiple players to be in a party to make use of some skills combos, here is an specific example that proves her point:
Circle 2 Linkers have a skill called âSpiritual Chainâ, that letâs you share buffs between the linked characters in the party. While itâs a cool skill, there arenât many buffs that the Linker can actually cast himself to make use of this skill, since to take Circle 2 Linker you sacrifice your choice of Traumaturge, so the only buffs you can cast are Wizardâs âReflect Shieldâ and Chronomancerâs âQuickenâ (if you sacrifice your chance to get Circle 3 Linker). So if you want to share Traumaturge buffs, youâll actually need to party with a Traumaturge.
On the new system, this doesnât happen, since you can build up Linker Circle 2 and then Traumaturge Circle 2 (in whatever order you like), so a linker with this build doesnât need to party with a Traumaturge to be able to share itâs skills with the party, and this is just considering up to rank 6, but if you continue this up to rank 8, this character wonât need to party with other Linkers or Traumaturges, since he can best 'em in any way. You can say that this is a specific case, but itâs a lot easier to do this analysis on the Cleric tree.
Honestly I see more benefits than problems on the new system, since it letâs you customize your character further to your own play style, but I just wanted to see if someone else thinks that this would be really a problem.
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I like your GFâs point. Its not that i donât see merits in the new system, and having class combinations you couldnât do before was neat. Just over all i preferred how much harder the decisions were, you had bigger losses on your choices.
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That possible but you are still gonna lose important ranks if u combine Linker and Traumaturge⌠That is the downside of that buildâŚ
I liked a lot how much harder the decisions where too with the other way but well itâs pretty complicated. There will be nearly half of the players who will likes the first way while the other half will love the second one. And since âhigher tier classesâ doesnât really mean better classes in this games (lower classes have less damages for less cooldown, while the higher classes have better damages for bigger cooldown too).
@grillo donât forget the limitations of buffs too. with the buffs your party members already having a 7buffs link from yourself would make people lose buffs (if what the peopel said to me about 7buffs max is real or not)
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Now people need to make more choices about their builds. Itâll give you more variety than the old system.
I donât see it as a negative point though.