Full efflect 15s, the cast bar is just a placeholder for you to aiming. Many other skills like lethargy, evil sacrifice also work like that.
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I mean, it even says âfull chargeâ when fully charged (obviously) but it can be instant casted without any penalty. I guess it is broken in that sense because all the other skills have to be fully charged before being set off. Good to know for future pvp I guess.
Well, there is no cast time involved, there is cast animation though.
Iâm playing a Wiz 3 ele 3 myself.
The disadvantage of sleep is that itâs very easy to avoid it, but in PVE since the mobs are predictable itâs a great spell to have.
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And what kite by bunny hopping?
Is that a normal gameplay mechanics?
I still stay on my position : a cc with a duration of 15s is broken, because if you get sleep just once you are dead.
I see that now, if you hadnât seen from above. Iâm playing an wiz 3 ele 1 atm and just fully charged it because I thought I had to.
Not having to full cast it will mean it will be even easier to hit someone. Good thing I came into this thread. Learned something I guess.
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@Ivorax
Do you not understand that barbarians have a gigantic plethora of stuns and if you just stand behind them before pvp even starts you can literally stun lock them to hell before they even make a move?
If you move and jump around it should be close to impossible for the wiz to hit you with sleep.
For the most popular build path for wiz itâs literally one of the only CC they have besides Earthquake(until higher level elementalist). If they miss sleep they are dead because most of them are too squishy to wait for the sleep CD to be up again.
Just because your class is weak against wiz doesnât mean itâs broken. Just because youâre bad against something doesnât mean they need to change it.
The world doesnât revolve around YOU. The whole game doesnât need to change itâs mechanics because youâre bad at the game.
sleep is indeed strong, but ⌠really?
like, are you even bother to check how the sleep works and its animation?
sure the duration is long, but it have its own attack threshold
and you should be ashamed got kited by wiz as swordman when u can dash
this is more l2p issue instead crying for nerf
Only wizard on this post?
Please nerf stupidityâŚ
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Hello IMC,
Can you do me a favour and nerf Rock please.
Sincerely,
Scissors
P.S Paper is fine, they donât need a nerf or buff.
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You seem to be pissed no one agrees with you. Sadly there are more things that will affect you in pvp besides Sleep. I dont feel like explaining since others already explained how tiny its aoe is and how you dont give a fuk about it besides getting hit by it
Please buff Wizard, if the sleep miss Wizard are dead.
I think most will agree that itâs your fault getting hit by a spell most can easily avoid.
Seriously, I donât even know how did you manage to get hit by such an easy to avoid spell, most wizard donât even expect the sleep to hit and use it as a simple zoning tool to slow your enemy, but somehow you get caught.
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Sleep is pretty useless if you have minor amounts of spr, turn around and tell me how that wiz did against a cleric.
I know the topic was about nerfing wizards sleep⌠but still what I donât like in the mentality of ppl here is that just because it has some counters it doesnât mean it works fine. Why ppl donât see that the whole system is messed up?
The topic is wrong on that one that not just sleep has to be tweakedâŚbut why is it so hard for ppl to go deeper in that what the topic originally suggested?
Also a lot of ppl comes with this treshold thing⌠while I think the treshold is kinda op too⌠Maybe I think about it like that because Iâm coming from ragnarok but it wasnât like this there.
Sleep is actually a good example because it was the longest cc in RO too as I remember but it immediately disappeared if something hit you in return⌠and it could be still annoying if someone left you in sleep and just walked away. Of course there were some flaws in ro too with cc⌠and Iâm sure it is rly hard to balance out ccs in a gameâŚ
But still I think what we have in TOS now is not good and that includes Sleep and of course the preventions too.
youâre stupid sleep as a channel but you donât need to channel it you can just use it real quick and canel channel and it work instant itâs op as â â â â â â â â â â â
youâre stupid you can pretty much use sleep instant you can canel the animation and instant sleep and dead because it lasts so long
Change your channels
Youâve got to be kidding meâŚ(cleric class here) No nerfing the wizards. If youâre having trouble competing somehow go play a broken bow user or if its pvp then suck it up kid.
Oh cute. He liked his own post rofl.
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honestly there is a rason why wizz and clerics are 99% in the top100 pvp ranking.
they are way too OP and need hard nerfs in PvP and it will happen. 100%