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Need tips for sapper build

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Hey guys, need some help from sappers. There’s not a lot of sapper guide out there and I can’t seem to find what I’m looking for.

This is my planned build and I need some suggestions for rank 5

A2 > Sapper 2 > ? > Falconer 2

-PvE only
-High str / low dex. with a touch a con and spr
-Want to use bow as main weapon instead of xbow+offhand

I’m not really interested in meta build and if I’m not desired in end game, well, I’m alright with it. That said, I’m trying to optimized my build as reasonably as possible while making my archer to my image.

Here are some of my thoughts on rank 5. (Can’t decide)

A3: mainly for 15 multi shot+circling and 10 kneeling shot
Sapper 3: Want this to max broom trap, claymore and stockade

Right now, I’m leaning more towards A3. Any suggestions would really help!

#2

Better off getting 1 circle in Rogue, reason being:
1/ You have high Str, so Vendetta will works great
2/ Capture works great with sapper, you can double your Broom Trap or capture a Punji, lure mobs to a wall and release to deal some INSANE damage with Punji’s attribute.
3/ Sneak Hit is a great crit buff

#3

couldn’t go wrong with a3 or rogue. why falc 2 btw?

#4

But going rogue means xbow is better right? Don’t want to use xbow though.

#5

Nothing else fancy me at rank 7. Besides they are buffing falconer in ktos and I’m willing to roll the dice for Falconer C3

#6

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#7

I’ve read almost all of sapper builds in the forum. None had what I wanted answered so I posted this. Most are wugushi build and build with xbow+offhand in mind.

Yes, I know falconer c2 is crap. But it isn’t the point of this post. I’m only needing help on rank 5. Like I said, I’m just trying to build an archer to my image. I guess if it means I end up as a ‘autistic’ falconer c2, I’m alright with it. Again, if I’m discriminated end game, I’m alright with it.

#8

Yea…Rogue c1 just adds utilities, you don’t need to use the dagger if you don’t go c2 for Backstab so you’re good dude

#9

You can even replace Archer C2 for Ranger C1 to get a combo to double Barrage’s damage with Feint.

Swift Step 25% crit is not totally necessary when you have Sneak Hit; it’s harder to trigger but Sapper is about placement and positioning right? Might as well get use to it

You don’t really need Kneeling Shot since you have low dex, and placing traps takes time, you won’t be using Kneeling that often.

Level 10 Multi shot is good, but do you need a casting small AoE nearly-single-target skill that much? You’re building a PvE character right? Remember, it’s not like old times when you can cast any skill and it will hit whatever is in Circling’s range; now it’s only hit what’s in the skill’s indicator range (blue circle). With a bow you’ll hit more in Circling with Barrage, because Barrage pierce.

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#10

How about sneak hit? It says melee. And how does capture work?

#11

Sneak hit is a buff that increase your crit chance by 70% if you’re hitting the target’s back. Not necessary be melee only.

Capture can “store” level of skill “magic circle”, but this extend to “long duration ground spell”, which include your traps and Flare Shot, Magic Arrow, if you learn the attribute. You have to stand next to the desired magic circle, face it and use the skill. Which mean you can “make” any ground traps, capture it for future uses.

#12

Thanks dude. I’ve also read about this in other sapper guide. But I just brush it off aside when I saw melee. Gonna do more research on this.

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#14

how good is rank 1 of qs? also planning to make a a2>qs > wugu 2 >falc> can

#15

ok so i am a pure STR ar1 qs1 sapper 3 and i plan to get 2 ranks in rogue
(3 if no new engi/trapper class shows up at rank 8)
I plan to use a 2h bow and feint and backstab are a no go

now i have a loadddd of questions like
does ranking capture increase the size of the
’‘photo’’ space you take of the floor or does it remain a small little area just with more traps captured in that tiny spot

does running behind enemies with sneak hit while broom trap or stockade is up make them magically start crit spamming? does using burrow after placing a broom and a stockade down also add to there crit?

is the 100% eva buff meant for dex builds? or is it still helpful for str builds, like does it scale off your alllready existing evasion or is it just a not hit by phys damage mobs for 25 second buff, same question with crit buff

maxing capture seems like a dead given to me but i am left with a bunch of choices for the other points

do i go

Max Lachry
max sneak hit and max burrow?

or do i go

max lachry, max vendetta
max burrow?

or do i go
max evasion, max sneak hit , max burrow

or do i go

max evasion, max vendetta, max burrow

keep in mind this is a pure PVE fun build that is focused on being able to turn into a tiny fortress at will (max punji stake and wire and broom and stock but no claymore or explode traps)

(just pasting this post from the rogue meganerf thread , since no one in there seemed to want to answer)

#16

How is Sapper 3 doing for you? I’m contemplating going Sapper 3 to max broom, claymore and stock.

#17

i didn’t get claymore because i wanted to have a fortress not be a terrorist lol

(shields,caltrops, stocks, punji brooms and eventually smoke grenade)

i don’t really use spike shooter very much because of the price and its damage isn’t what i figured it would be
but i heard that if you have falconer circling and spike shooter you can hit some crazy damage to flying things?

broom trap is amazing so i wanted it maxed as much as i could
instead of investing in gear i just blow all my silver on broom trap
atribute
so far its at 50% and the next point costs 110000k to rank so ima just let that sit for awhile XD

i do this because basically every 1% is going to hit a ton of times because its such a long duration, and then when i get capture it doubles that so it will just get ridiculous eventually

i have a major weakness, which is flying, as i have barely anything that hits flying but that is ok i just party with a friend and pardoner buff for flying map quests and then go back to my ground mob grinding zones

however if i go and solo demon prison 2f i make soooooo much money and what i do is put down a broom trap in one of the crazy mob infested rooms and since they auto aggro they run into the blender , however only a certain amount will aggro me so i put down the shields inside of the broom trap which collect the aggro of the rest and the duration and damage from broom trap is so good it just clears the entire room by itself

also the distance between the rooms loaded with mobs is just right to have cd off on broom trap again

so its just
broom shield shield run in circles
go to next room
broom shield shield run in circles
next
broom shield shield run in circles
next

and you make sooooooooooooooooooooooo much money xD
everyone you meet instantly wants you in there party because they cannot compete so if u want companionship or to be lazy with heals and taunts etc people will flock to you naturally :smiley:

sapper is an aoe grinding machine and its very fun

stockade maxed is also amazing as it hits 7-9ks on everything atm with only 20% attribute invested

its basically a weird aoe because u can just put them down and run around until all the mobs 1 shot themselves by running into it

my favorite thing to do though is just make a giant fortress

shields block arrows
stockades block melee mob
if they get past that there is a punji stake on the floor underneath waiting to launch them back

eventually smoke grenade will be added to that which will be even more awesome because if you max lachyrmator its a longer duration than broom trap so i can just hang out inside my broom with smoke up

it doesn’t work on flying either but hey i am not going to be using broom trap on flying stuff now am i

now if only someone could answer those questions we could see how much more synergy is between these classes P:

im sure there is something more efficient but that just means my class isn’t getting nerfed anytime soon and that i am a rare sight

i have only seen 1 other sapper 3 in my entire playtime on both my chars

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#18

no. going rogue C2 means using xbow dagger or the karacha set.
rogue C1 is REALLLLLLYYYY powerfull. it synergizes with your broom trap too.

Sneak hit is the best crit buff if i am not wrong. its gives you crit chance, not crit rate. lets say you have 0 crit rate. if you use skill sneak hit which gives 70% crit chance, basically 70% of your attacks will crit. its that good.

another thing about sneak hit, it even works for your broom trap. just lay it down, go at the back of enemy boss for example, and watch it crit the hell out of the boss. xD

#19

yes, sneak hit will make your broom trap crit if you are at the back of the enemy. if your planning to go this path, its better to go full str. since you are not going to use the backstab and instead get a sneak hit 15 (thats 90% crit chance) literally 90% crit chance to crit. hahaha.

this is what i will suggest you based on your choice

Sneak hit 15/15 for 90% crit chance
Feint 10/15 what is miss? more chance to crit because you wont miss
Capture 5/15 for class synergy. you can even get elementalist’s frost cloud. in mission/dungeon tell them to cast every deployment skill they have and capture it. then lay waste when you want to use it. haha
lachrymator 10/10 (just for mass hysteria) hahaha
Burrow 5/5 for fun purposes?

evasion is not worth it. for me its not. its cd is too long. and has no attributes that upgrades it, just a wast really. you can also choose to max vendeta, but then again it cast time is too long. up to you though

#20

in pve what level does missing become an issue? because i have yet to have a problem with accuracy that i would need a skill to counter it