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Need help for my archer build A1-QS3-?

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Hello, i’m about to reach c5 with my archer and i still have no clue what to do next.

I want some AoE/utility since QS3 build has pretty much none.

I was thinking of :

A1-QS3-Fletcher3 - Fletcher brings AoE along with great world boss skills, would probably be a great world boss killer but for party/dungeon not so much?

A1-QS3-Rogue-Schwarzer - Looks great, can mount for mobility and Schwarzer skills seems great while running shot is on CD, BUT unless i’m wrong none of Schwarzer skill is Aoe :(. (This build would probably be more pvp oriented?)

A2-QS3-Sapper 2- Gains some benefits from autoattack from Archer 2. While sapper2 seems “okay”, it seems like a bad version of fletcher underperforming in every aspect ?

A2-QS3-Falconer-Canoneer - Gives some benefit in team party because of Falcon Circling, but in solo is useless. Canoneer also gives good AoE i believe, would be bad for world boss though. (Would be more of a Earth tower build?)

I can of like doing a little bit of everything (solo, dungeon, pvp, world boss).

Is there any build that could be good overall for all of that without being the best at everything since that’s impossible?

Thank you for your advice!

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#2

If you want a “good overall build” I would do:

A2 - QS3 - SCOUT1 - Cannoneer

A2 - Crit rate % , heavy shot is “necessary” for pvp

QS3 - Running shot / Stone shot

Scout 1 - Cloaking is almost necessary for archer pvp too unless you have shitloads of con , or plan on kneeling shot all the way

Cannoneer - AOE damage + burst in pvp

#3

Thanks for the advice, although what you describe seems to be more of a pvp build.

I’m personally not a fan of scout skills, what would you recommend for another class if i was to skip Scout? Falconer? Archer 3?

#4

I like your 4th build choice the most, because falconeer and canoneer are consistent with each other for AOE and your QS3 takes care of single target. I wouldn’t worry about not being able to solo this far, especially with running shot!

Canoneer has low CD which compliments well with running shot. Coming from a sapper, Sapper 2 is a good idea for broom trap but I would say the high cd on the trap itself makes it less effective for what it does in comparison to falconeer / canoneer.

For your second build I think you have enough mobility as a QS3 and Rogue 1 does not really benefit from SR imo–you’d need a bleeding skill like fletcher’s broadhead at least.

Fletcher c3 is strong for dps reasons (your only utility is to debuff reflect shield with bodkin, bleed with broadhead), but it’s mostly single target, which you already have with QS3 so not sure! As a fletcher c1, I know that I mostly use the skills because they have 0 cd, so as a filler, and for barbed arrow. Crossfire is good for finishing up mobs but takes too much sp, if you want to mob completely with it, i’d rather get sapper 2 or falconeer/canoneer for mobbing. But yeah that was my input, have fun experimenting!

#5

Thank you for your imput Meliodas.

Yeah i felt like sapper Broom is great but the Cooldown is too huge. It’s good for farming but otherwise, doesnt bring much to the table.

I was thinking Rogue 1 because of the 70% crit skill which is insane in groups/world boss. It’s useless in solo and not great in pvp though. Archer 2 could be good with Schwarzer2 though.

Fletcher seems overpowered at the moment and i’m afraid they’ll nerf it anyway, and i hate having to craft arrows all the time.

So i guess it comes down to :

-A1-QS3-Schwarzer-Swarzer-? (Archer maybe somewhere in between, or falconer) Does Circling from falconer benefit Schwarner skills in any way? Because i believe all other falconer skills are horrible.

-A2-QS3-Falconer-Canoneer (Brings utility with Falconer, some good AoE with Canoneer and solid single target with QS3 running shot, but overall bad in pvp.

#6

Also, I don’t belive Schwarzer has any AoE? Unless i’m wrong. So without Falconer it brings nothing to group other than for bosses.

#7

Yeah most builds recommend A2 for the crit buff on swiftstep and perma duration. Edit: Also for full draw lv 7 insta cast. A2 Multishot 10 is nice too; I think SR has something similar but better (concentrated fire). I don’t think Schwarzer has any official AoE unless you pair their skills with circling and AoE attack gear, but I never tested that.

If concentrated fire works like multishot though, then circling can work but it won’t be as good as a canoneer for the same purposes. Well you could be an off-tank evasion but yeah, not much group utility. regarding Fletcher, there’s an annoying craft glitch that makes it hard to craft more than ten (for me) batches at a time, but it’s not so bad. It gives me the crafting achievement and the crafting time after 500 arrows spent is roughly equal to when I need to go back for repairs / pots. I don’t know if it’s OP (barbed doesn’t 3 shot on most mobs because they aren’t clothed) because of the sp consumption. Regarding PVP, yeah those builds are mainly PvE I think, but still nice.

#8

How does fletcher arrow crafting works anyway? What ingredient do you need ? Can you buy them or you have to farm them?

Also canoneer is 2 handed right? Which mean i’ll have to switch weapons all the time :sweat: But all of the canoneer skills seems good :grin: and lvl 2 archer seems great for the crit rate bonus and kneeling shot seems good in group where you don’t have to move all the time.

Ugh so many decisions and i have to make them now :sob: haha.

#9

I am currently as A1>QS3 too.
From what I read, watched and played so far I can say that:

A2 is pretty mandatory for the %critical rate you get from SS attribute and Kneeling Shot (when applicable). Assuming that you get A2 as rank 5, you are left with the following options for your end build:

A2>QS3>Falc1>Canno; [Best AOE option for damage and utility, has an very good block penetration with Canno class attribute]

A2>QS3>Scout1>Canno; [Probably best group PVP option for cloaking paired with block penetration and AOE burst from Canno / Flu-Flu might be a good utility for PVE too]

A2>QS3>Falc1>Musket; [Best range paired with utility for PVE and good AOE dmg when paired with Linker and Circling]

A2>QS3>Scout1>Musket; [Best range and PVP single target burst + cloaking]

A2>QS3>SR2; [Can’t really say anything about this but from what I read, Schwarzer Reiter’s dmg is very low compared with Musketeer and Cannoneer]

If you want to go A1>QS3>Fletcher3 I think it’s possible too, Fletcher don’t seem as a class dependant on the classes before him, it’s just an AOE dmg spammer focused on PVE bossing and mob clearing.

#10

Ah, yeah arrow crafting is a skill that you buy from the fletcher master when you change classes. You only need the particular wood needed for the arrow you’re crafting, which is purchasable from the master for 12 silver a wood (another type is 20 silver I believe). This is really not expensive once you hit 100+. Some mobs also drop the woods. For arrows, 2 woods gives ya 10 arrows, so you need 100 woods to craft 500 arrows. this is about 2 min of crafting and it costs 1.2k but it lasts me for a long time, and you make way more money than spent by the time you run out.

I think canons are two-handed like bows. hah, yeah hard decisions, I feel ya!

#11

Thanks for you input! Appreciate it.

I THINK i’m gonna go A2-QS3-Falc1-Canoner or maybe musketer to end, i didnt think about Linker and how much dmg musketer can pull off damage with them :D.

I kinda feel like falc is a waste of a rank though…since they only have 1 good skill with a long CD…that is only good in group

#12

Thanks Meliodas,

I really thought arrows were more expansive and hard to get than that…hmmm. Fletcher is also a SP potion addict too though haha, i never used any since QS is all about autoattack, but i guess they could be a good combo.

#13

I feel like that too, but the rest of the kit brings a lot of damage already. I feel it’s more a question of being desirable for a party (falconer), being able to handle things alone for bossing and pvp (scout), or having massive single target damage for world bossing (archer 3, with twin arrows 5 overheat for Running Shot downtime).

#14

Aren’t cannonneer desirable in party anyway? Either way, the safest choice for me is to go A2 at C5, it will give me time to think about my last 2 rank…Since A2 is good is almost everybuild when paired with QS3. The only thing i’ll miss is to possibility for fletcher3.

#15

Exactly what I intend to do too. But I am almost certain of going Falc>Canno for my build end.

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#16

well SR retreat shot can hit a lot of enemies and i think it can count like an aoe

#17

SR’s does have aoe… retreat shot has a narrow width but the equivalent of kneeling shot lvl 10’s range hitting offmap to the side and hits 10 monsters simultaneously at SR2 that’s not affected by monster size and aoe attack ratio.

#18

Cannon is a sub weapon just like Dagger etc.

you can use both crossbow and cannon together and no weapon swap required when using canoneer skills.

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#19

Oh that’s pretty neat :slight_smile: Although I havent seen any good canon ever linked or any recipe, are there any good?

#20

check them out here. lvl220 and above thats why its not that common.