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My solution to overcrowded grinding spots: an optional PK channel

abuse in a sense if the PK channel have high exp and drop rates, stronger player/GUILD would monopolize the channels on hunting/griding spots… thus unfair for normal channels =3="
if its pk then just pk, no need to increase droprates/exps…

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@ophiuchu this literally makes no sense. If someone was strong enough to KS you out of a channel as it stands, it wouldn’t matter if there was PK or not.

You’re reaching really far with that.

@AkaiKiseki Again, there’s no reason why a PK channel stops the inclusion of more normal channels. I don’t understand how you could think this.

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Yeah lets add a Zerg channel into the game, that will fix it lol, this game will not work with open pvp, being into pvp, i prefer the game to keep it closed areas, because if somehow they go crazy and open a PK channel… haha, nah thats just stupid xD

@rhidz And that’s fine if you are having fun that way, I already said that it’s an optional thing.

@AkaiKiseki Elaborate on what is bad about this idea and why would it be bad for people who don’t want and are free to not participate in it, while also making happy a lot of people who would find this fun.

Why are you laughing? What was so ridiculous about my idea that made you post in such a passive-aggressive way?

@ophiuchu IT. IS. OPTIONAL. What part of it do you not understand?

@Senses It is optional. Don’t call my idea “stupid” when you don’t bring any argument to back it up.

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How is it unfair to normal? If the PK channel didn’t exist then nothing changes. If you never used the PK channel nothing still changes. It’s not unfair if you’re envious of something of something you can’t do. That’s just jealousy.

I just said it would be a zerg channel, wich brings nothing to the game, this game’s community and the game itself is not made for world pvp, so that’s why im saying its not going to happen, we don’t even have full knowledge of every grind area available for us, already saying that we gonna be thinking on killing eachother for a grinding spot is just the result of a 7 day trial we had on low level areas.

@Senses First of all your argument lacks sense for the most simple reason: it is optional. Why would you care if there is a zerg in your desired spot if you still have the normal channels to play the game? It is completely 100% optional and you would be missing nothing if you don’t enter it.

It does because this PK channel only fuels further incentive for people to play like this at a sad attempt to make you go into that channel. There’s no far stretching going on here if you seriously take about 10 seconds to think about it when you’ve played to see what people already do in game. People will attempt at griefing you out of a normal channel into the PK zone because it simply exists giving them reason enough.

@ophiuchu How would them KSing you somehow convince you to go to the PK channel so they can kill you? I cannot follow this logic because it makes no sense. You could easily just change to another normal channel, change maps or go do something else if it becomes a problem. Or you could just ignore them and continue killing different spawn sets. There is zero reason to move to a PK channel because somebody is telling you to and there’s zero reason to assume some ass is going to go to normal channels to try and bully someone into changing channels because it makes no damn sense.

@ophiuchu What? You are just looking for things to complain about at this point. People is able to grief you now as it is. Thinking this will make people grief more and even using it as a counter-argument is just sad. You also have more than one normal channel.

=_=" u dont seem to understand, my point was simple, if a PK channel were to exist, the only different thing their is the authority for player killing, no changes should be made for exp/drop rates… its rather unfair and exploitable.
im not jealous, rather expressing my thoughts on fair play, but u could call it whatever u want :neutral_face:

If the problem with grinding areas is the hassle of having people be there at all – how is having people be there + having those people be able to fight you going to make it any less of a hassle…? (I can easily picture it making it even more difficult to earn good exp in grinding areas.) They can just keep coming back to hassle you, doesn’t fix anything imo. It’s an interesting idea though.

@nonon_tos
Edit: (since I don’t want to make another post lol) Well you’re banking on people giving up & not being wildly stubborn & while it might be fun to be constantly fighting them it won’t exactly solve the exp problem. I will admit It’d work out that way sometimes though, you’re right.

@rhidz I understand your point. I personally believe a bonus would be a fair reward for people who willing to risk getting killed since fighting for the spot actually takes time that could be used for grinding instead.

I’m also all for just a vanilla PK channel with no bonus, but a bonus is something I agree with too.

@yeule My answer to that is in one of my earlier posts, I’ll quote it.

But there’s other reason too: I find it really fun! And I know other people also do. And I’m also sure that it doens’t bring anything bad for players who don’t like it and can stay away from it.

It’s not really optional when you offer it as a solution to a problem. Channels are congested so we should stay in the congested channels if we dont want to waste time PKing?

Exactly man…missing nothing…

Anyways, when we get another trial with more chance for not-so-much-free-time-players to get in high lvl areas you ll see that there is no need for a pk channel.

Now, a PvP server, that’s an option that actually makes sense, Hardcore mode(d2), something like that, but still, i dont think this game and the community are made for it.

@StonerSunshine As @cronolvl99 said this isn’t mutually exclusive with the idea of adding more characters or increasing the spawn rate, just a more interesting way to alleviate the problem while also giving PvP players something they can have fun with.

@Senses I can also agree with a PK server but I feel like that will divide the playerbase and that’s certainly not good. Also the PK Channel idea, while alleviating the problem in case overcrowding happens, can also be there just for fun which is something that I don’t understand why people would be against.

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@StonerSunshine How does one PK channel stop the inclusion of more channels?

now thats an answer… a bonus, yes, but not on exp/drop rate boost as i said its exploitable… a bonus rather like achievements or PK points that can be exchange for REASONABLE prizes =3="