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My feedback (concerned about hair colors)

A friend and I have been playing at the same time although separately. We’re only level 30 so we haven’t really experienced and experimented with the higher level mechanics.

In his opinion, the game is pretty, flashy, dynamic and fun, which was a surprise, this being an MMO, and quests were varied enough to not be a drag. He stopped playing at 30 because he was starting to feel the grindy aspects that most MMOs have, with a special mention to the abrupt decrease in job leveling speed after second rank (job level grows at the same rate as base level at rank one, but becomes half of it at second rank). I didn’t feel the grind yet but I have to agree with the job growth disappointment, and definitely on how dynamic the gameplay is. It’s great to play a MMORPG that plays like an action RPG instead of a slow slog of chores and cooldowns disguised as an action RPG.

Also, a concern he had was the social aspect. Since we were playing solo, encountering other players only served to suffer from KS and seeing how everyone is a clone of someone else, which is very of-putting.
While I haven’t had much of the former (other than high-levels vaporizing everything in their way a time or two), I feel strongly about the later. It REALLY is tiring to find clones everywhere you look because of how limited character creation is. While this is alleaviated when people start branching into different classes and getting their black dye for a whopping two colors per hairstyle, it’s still something that shouldn’t be happening. It’s a shame, because this is a really REALLY pretty game, but character homogenity harms it.

I, and basically everyone who I’ve talked to about this, like to create a character in pretty much its final state, at least in their body traits. Some minor alterations, like different but similar styles and colors might happen, and some people might revamp their characters later on, but as it stands the later is the only option, having everyone go for the “novice hairstyles” for no real reason.
Not only that, but the game offers you absolutely no way to visualize what you can get other than your imagination because there’s just one hair color per style. I kind of get what they want to do with achievements, but on top of not working there’s just no reason to not have all colors in the character creation (brunette, blonde, gray, kind-of-redhead) availiable to all hairstyles, since achievement colors don’t cover them anyways.
And speaking of achievements, there are just not enough alternate colors (I refer back to the ones I just mentioned) and their requirements are very unbalanced amongst themselves. There are even some concepts in that list that I’m still not familiar with like “party quests” (are there separate quests for already formed parties?) or “treasure stealing” (I know this isn’t for hair).

I’m sorry I’m being so insistent on this, but since the answer given in that old blog entry was so nonsensical, I fear this won’t change if not stressed and explained enough

And finally, a very minor gripe I have: explanations about the UI. While there are these text tutorials, I feel they’re not enough to properly teach someone to navigate them and what each tab is for. And on top of that, there’s this “bug” where the tutorial page will randomly close when scrolling or reading. I hope this can be improved a little in the future.

Other than that, I’ve had a blast playing and hope I can continue doing so.

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Part of the issue here is that it is BETA so alot of people don’t want to spend time unlocking hairstyles and colors they will just lose to the wipe. they want to test classes.

Well, I was talking for them as I was talking for myself. I’m not really willing to grind who-knows-what to get the white color, or try to guess what “party quests” are so I can do 25 of them for blue. Partly because I don’t know how to go about them, partly because how random they are, partly because those aren’t the colors I want.

But even in the final release, if things stay as they are, the early maps will always be clone factories, not only for unwillingness to branch out, but also because of unability to do so.
As a whole, I think achievement-based colors are a bad idea.

I don’t mind it. im okay with working for vanity.

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You call it vanity, I call it identity.

I may exaggerate with the system as a whole being a bad idea. I don’t mind more garish colors/hairstyles being rewards (as long as there’s something slightly similar form the get go). What I do mind is that rewards are the ONLY way to manage bare minimum customization.

I believe that the game right now has other priorities, you know… They are working into making a new server, there are a lot of bugs and issues with companions and a really big upcoming issue with classes balance.

I believe that this is not the time to bother with how your character looks. I’m pretty sure that by the release they will adress that, but until then, it’s infinitely more important to make the game work properly instead of using their time with hair colors and customes. It’s too soon.

Even though visuals ARE a big part of this game and shouldn’t be overlooked, I’d usually agree with you.

BUT, this statement has been bothering me since January

We already have a feature to change eye colors or hair colors of
characters in the game. But instead of making them possible when
selecting a character, we want players to obtain them in the game.
We hope for your understanding for this since we believe that players
will be more affectionate to their characters when they become unique
and distinct from other players’ characters after a long period of
playtime instead of just allowing diverse customization options from the
beginning.

So I’m pretty much asking them to reconsider this, since at this point this is strongly the direction they’re going for.

Besides, this game isn’t a one-man job. I highly doubt the people planning these extra features, the graphic designers, the programmers and the game designers are all the same people, so I don’t think any time invested on this would jeopardize the rest of the issues.

Me too. Actually I prefer it this way, like crafting something to change the hair color and doing quest to find the correct NPC to do so.

later in the game we will have more head accesseries and armband. I think there will be cash shop for costume anyway.

I want more hair colour achivement. Dont want to be default character. According to anime, uncommon hair colour = important char