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Musketeer stats for TBL

Hello I have some questions about musketeer stats for TBL.

I tried full dex and I felt I dont hit anything in PVP and die quickly

Now I’m at 100 str and 260+ dex and I still dont hit anything.

Is archer a dead class in TBL ?

How many dex do you need for the block penetration against full CON?

Very high or full DEX + Block Pen gear. Full CON builds in TBL, especially those who are very well-geared have insane amounts of Block. Pel-Hop-Murm builds are most notable for this.

IMO you’ll need at least full Solmiki gear (including Solmiki musket and plate gaunts for block pen plus lv.8/9 yellow gem) - this is of course if you want to reach top 10 in a high pop server (e.g. SEA).

Check out Ozpin of Telsiai during TBL time. He’s the only Musket I know that at least makes it to top 10 every now and then.

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so as a new player, i shouldnt bother playing my musketeer for TBL, it is way too high investment …

If you wanna have fun and is content staying in the lower rankings then it’s still worth it I guess. I do this with my non-main chars sometimes for a change, just to kill time or simply test something out.

The only way low investment would work in high ranks is if you play support. Being a DPS build really needs investment.

Im in Eu server and the only people playing TBL are all stuffed or play cheated char like Kino 3, Im not having fun at all on my musketeer, i do no damage and i die with 1 hit

I also dont see any archer in TBL

I like my musketeer as a machine gun musket full dex but im so weak in TBL

I will need like 3 month of farming in order to have decent fun with my musketeer ?

That’s the situation in TBL right now unfortunately. Maybe once they fix the bugs and rebalance further we’ll see better change.

I played the old TBL in EU with Hunter3/Scout/Musk2 and I simply rerolled to a “fun” PvE build at some point. The first thing I learned is that if you’re not Cleric you go either PvE or PvP build as archer, however the PvP builds are very limited and require insane Gear in Order to work. Even if you start farming now for several months and gear up, your Musket will always be worse than an equally geared Cleric or Mage.

While the numbers of Musketeer sound “nice” on paper the biggest problem you’ll face is that you don’t have any defense and your hits are “single hits”. Thanks to the calculation your hit needs to get through Block/Evasion first and every dedicated TBL Cleric/Mage is full con with a Decent shield so without 500-600 Block Pen your hits wont do anything in first place. The second thing is if you don’t instagib the enemy they’ll simply heal up again and then blow you up with perm CC and/or Magic (which does neither require accuracy or block pen). To prevent this you’d need CC - The “good” CC the Archer-Tree had (Hunter) was nerfed into the abyss after Clerics/Mages cried they get perm CC’ed. QS Stone Shot shouldn’t work anymore thanks to the immunity not to mention it’s not 100% anyway.

You could try to sneak around in cloaking and wait for an opening but with the lowered duration you cant do that for very long. Not to mention cloaking is revealed by pretty much anything these days (a buff icon over your head, a charge up attack, bugs, literally anything)

TL;DR

  1. Farming will help but not much
  2. Musk. in TBL is a Glass Cannon without CC/safe Damage
  3. Cloaking sucks

ty
that is what i thought and was scared of

My musketeer is Archer2>QS3>Hunter1>Musk2 full dex, i believed in the stuns for TBL.

I guess my musketeer will convert to a boss killer type full str, no point in PVP with archer class anymore. Unless super stuffed.

Gotta wait for a free rank reset to remove Hunt which is useless in TBL, pet dies in 1 hit and bugs a lot, doesnt stun or do damage with rush dog. Stone shot like you said I stun once for like every 20 Stone shot and stun duration is very short.

Investment for physical DPS would go to my Lancer I guess thx to the block penetration buff.

They should nerf mage/cleric dps if they go full CON, physical attackers have to mix str/dex/con while mage/cleric can go full CON and still be able to kill you with DPS skill like the kino3/necro3 raise + flesh cannon … simple and stupid

In the past I used to sneak up on players with cloaking while having the pet deactivated - turning it back on and try to rush dog coursing/retrieve them (close range) as work around for the Pet so it does not get stuck. However thanks to infinite Blocks they even survived 30 sec of perm cc. At some point the Pet simply gave up (e.g. f*cked up recast) or the “teammate” of the enemy came around.

Right now both Coursing/Retrieve only last for 2,25 seconds. You need to recast it after like 1 Hit so the Pet doesn’t return to you before using the attack again (the moment the Pet “leaves” the enemy they have enough time to recover before getting CC’ed again).

The EU TBL community is very small, the few people that play more than one match per day are all good geared Mages or Clerics abusing pretty much the “features” TBL offers. While a few changes made the new TBL a bit more enjoyable it still has a lot old problems. I personally think it’s even worse than before.

The good thing with Hunter + Scout is that I can rush dog while stealthed and it doesnt unstealth me but you know pet damage is so low …

why they dont make coursing work on boss ? this is so stupid, i use it for the crit buff but what is the point to use it on mobs that dies pretty quickly ? in pvp your pet dies quickly and cant use it …