🍄 Archer builds/ Skill synergies / Mechanics etc Megathread! 🍄

[khsellhu]

Going SR after Sapper ain’t that good. You can’t set traps while you are on mount, so no synergy at all. Besides, I wouldn’t go for Ranger on C2. Archer(2)>Sapper(2)>Rogue2/Fletcher2 seems more stable, for example.
Archer > Ranger(2) > Wugushi (2) > SR seems more balanced. Ranger skills are considered missiles, so you can use them on SR. And Wugushi skills would work as well.

@Aereist
This is going to be my personal IMHO:
1st of all, Swift Step seems useless to me. I did take it… And never used it even once. Besides, it doesn’t work well with my playstyle and Sapper at all. Fulldraw is MUCH… MUCH better.
Kneeling shot is very occasional. You can, probably, just dump those points into something else. I’ve it at 5, but use rather rarely. It can somewhat speed up your fights against solo targets, or if you have an enormous advantage against mobs, that they die in 2-3 shots, then you can spam it.
Claymore just isn’t good. Isn’t good at all. Stockades are better. Its easy to set them, 'cause there is no cast time and only animation, which ends in less than 1 second. You can put them directly under mobs and they will be blown. You have 2 stockades (wish, we had more), so you can basically put them near and just mobtrain through them… And then, when they are almost gone/destroyed you just detonate them, which also gives nice damage bonus.
But, again, I’m playing solo and I don’t think that you can actually outperform mages or barbs in partyplay. Claymore needs more time and positioning than stockades, so you probably won’t even be able to attack mobs.
Also, why don’t you take collar bomb? I don’t have it yet, but skill seems simply awesome.
Can’t say anything about Falconer, as I know nothing about it. Seems kinda… plain =_=

[Aereist]

I also think Swift Step Didn’t help me much. But many said it’s good so…
In solo grind, Stockade is sure to be far better than Claymore as we can lure them to it ourself. But in a party it’s not lol. As Claymore being that high scale dmg, I can’t seem to dump it. It maybe bad in solo, but I’ll save it in party play. And Collar Bomb… uh, as I search through many website for the last 2 Sapper skills. I think they don’t work pretty well, as of right now.

Thank you for your opinion. I’ll try to re adjust my build again

[masaruppup]

Cloak makes boss heal back up as if I’m dead, and its attribute(Physical damage 50%) only applies to first hit of multi hit skill. I think this is pretty critical, and makes cloak almost useless in pve. I’ve made feedback on bug report, but I want you guys to be aware that this skill is currently broken(in a bad way.)

[Insomm]

For people currently playing Sapper, what are your thoughts on SapperC2 vs SapperC3? I am planning on rolling at least 1 character from each starter until the end of CBT and I still haven’t settled on an Archer path.

[cristoferoswald]

I’m doing an almost full party archer (currently on wugushi first cicle).
(my party has cryomancer/linker, hoplite, krivis and bokor)
Here is the [build][1]

What you guys think about it?
[1]: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/74fxk1q7gp/

[Anarth]

Multi shot is lv15 is so good to skip :(. Since you already have a linker in your party, you don’t need to skew things with full draw

[Senryu-Sama]

i’ve found this one on the “public builds” list on tos-base

Skill Simulator - Tree of Savior Fan Base

is it viable? is it any good? any stats advise for it?

[umut_chb_15]

Can ask here for some help?
Full SPR doenst look so weak actually , just from rough math based on avarage gear nothing special it looked like crit would deal 500ish more dips with Oblique at lv 200 rank 6.
For me it was a real pain to level to 69 and then I gave up my crit Archer>Archer>Ranger.
I got to lv 40 only with help.
Then I started to play full SPR from lv1 and rushed oblique 15. Its amazing, ez life and Im almost at the same quest stage like my 69 crit archer with 6 levels below him.

I rly want to see comparison videos Crit Vs Raw dmg against non flying enemies.
From my experience, the whole strugle just for crit ist not worth at all. Cant find the source anymore but crit is like combined dmg from gear+base+skill etc * 1.5 = Dmg number + Crit Damage flat number = dmg + %Attribute = Total dmg.
(somehting like that)
The option to spamm like 24/7 your skills in drawback for not critting is just too good. But still crit will outdmg later.
I did some more imaginations:
FULL SPR untill lv 120 > rest dex will put your crit rate to 147 > When u can get 24 or more dex from gear could put your crit to 177> Because flat crit dmg seems to be rly worthless just add crit rate gems into your bow lv4 and you have 209 > With swift step 284 > Lv 15 oblique +crit sould out dips full dex

[gabrielbianchin7]

As far as i can see in this game, doesn’t metter how much str you have, the damage is mostly decided by your weapon damage…
if you can aford the avarege or better weapons from you leveling place, Dex and Skill oriented build will shine more and more than str… but for me speding points em spr, is just for not waste silver on sp pots… and make you attacks unblokeble i think… thats why dex will shine more on the end of the game…
If we stop to think, STR and SRP only increases your steady damage ( attack damage + weapon damage) wich will float betwen min and max attck… while dex boost that steady damage by 1,5 + CritiA…
So for every no magic class, you should focus on dex > str = spr (or clote to be equal) if you are going for dps…
Or maybe i’m just talking nonsense, idk…

[Anarth]

I don’t think you are talking nonsense, honestly.

Archers seem to be heavily reliant on overupgraded and gemmed weapons in order to do significant damage in the early stages.

[BOMBFIRST]

Anybody know what “number of setups” means in the collar bomb description for sapper?

[Fulll]

just wanna ask about attributes and the skill of archer “one handed bow mastery” does it work with Bows? (not crossbows)
and can i reset the attributes and get back the money? Thanks in Advance

[Senryu-Sama]

“one hand”, it’s highly possible that it mean xbows only, since Bow are 2handed

[Fulll]

Thanks. What about resetting the attributes? is it possible? is it also possible to get your money back?

[Maedhros]

Nope! You just lost the money. I know that, since I wasted money on the shitty kneeling shot attribute.

[Fulll]

i actually like the kneeling shot cuz it really works… im just really not sure about the scale of the dmg cuz others mentioned about the dex buff which i dont really know since i just started…

Anyway the reason why i want to reset my attributes is because of the “one handed bow mastery” XD i ddnt know about it…i was using only “Bow” and i upgraded it to lvl 5 >.< (fml) . Now im making another one

[cristoferoswald]

I’m a 3 rank archer (actually wugushi) and kneeling shot is really great. It does like 3 times more damage, it is better when you have someone to tank and agro de mobs but if you have enough dex (Im lvl 100 with 110 dex) mobs you hit like half the times only (always “dogde”). For soloing kneeling makes things a little harder but now it is paying its price, since I spend my high cooldown speels of wuguchi and than stay on the back doing tons of damage.
But for my build I’m still thinking if I take that rank 5 of fletcher or go for only Archer > Wuguchi…

[legnawons2512]

Yeah i really like that. Dont know if in the open beta we can get free reset, it’s very hard leveling with full dex archer before you get 100 stats. So full SPR Archer c3 till level 80-100 then reset to full dex is easier to play.

[cristoferoswald]

I think that when the game launches everything thats is like reseting (skill, stats, etc) will be paid but… It is not that hard to play full dex archer, if you always get a nice weapon and get it +3 you will surive nicely, when you get rank 3 and twin arrows you can insta-kill mobs even with full dex. Btw, really liking wuguchi rank, recommend it to anyone, bosses life goes really fast right now.

[cristoferoswald]

Does anyone know how the poison damage is calculated? It uses str, weapon damage or what?