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Monsters not challenging enough

I was just talking to a friend that played WoW for years.

He said that leveling up to reach max level was pretty much the game`s challenge because it was kind of balanced hard and rewarding, many years ago. Now, it is lame. They even sell max level accounts officially.

So, in ToS it looks like you have to easily kill every mob until 200 and soloing is the way to go. Also, same quest-style every freaking map.

I was playing WoW some years ago (somewhere around 2007-2008) and it was boring 24/7 questing with occasional non-interesting dungeons. It was only time-consuming, not hard. Maybe I missed the time when it was rewarding challenge.

Actually when I recall it, it looks pretty much the same as in ToS now :slight_smile:

I were playing World of Warcraft on the starter edition a few months ago.
Even though monsters were lower than level 20, some of them could actually kill your char easily if you does not takes care, or have more than one enemy attacking you.

So WoW is not really in the same ranking.

lulwat. Remove ur nostalgia glasses if u think RO grind was fun. If you only played when trans was implemented then shut up. It took me 2-3 months to get from 96-99 on my hunter on iro. No anubis, no thor, no nameless. Iirc I leveled on gh prison/pyramid/sphinx/stings(dont remember if they were implemented back then) since we didnt have einbroch for geographers nor gonryun for EPTs.

Lmao you are delusional seriously. Since you compared it with RO, lemme do the same.Where you able to do thor without a party? Maybe, only if you had really good gear. Where you able to do nameless without a party? Again, only if you had OP gear or a tkm.

Thor wasn’t that hard. When I was leveling there with my MS there were mostly solo persons. Maybe it was hard if your server haven’t hotels/taverns. But with it + priest on second window for buffs it was ezpz.

And I haven’t any godlikes/mvp for leveling.

100 lvl ? Hmm… it only take me 2 days. Play more before say anything and brace your self 200+ lvl monster wil **** you hard

well, get to lvl 200. and just bcuz u play an archer or whatever doesnt mean everyone pays dps classes. ive heard leveling a preist takes a long time youre trying to make it harder for the people who have been keeping you alive in dungeons? stop thinking about yourself

there’s a rumor… and based in the maps, the max level should be near the 480’s… thus said.

Level 1-100 = Early Game
Level 1-200 = Early-Mid Game
Level 200-300 = Mid Game
Level 300-400 = Mid-Late Game
Level 400-482~ = Late Game

but i can be wrong :stuck_out_tongue:

the max level ive been was 107. i was suprised when i heard 100 was early game still… ive spetn 3 weeks on that char, but my stats were wrong. i made a nwe char and leveld him to 100 in like 4 days.

welp, to be honest people should not get ā€œend-gameā€ in less than a month xD on a MMO, but oh well… i think there are already players at the Current Cap (260 or so).

yeah im having trouble finding out how ppl r at the cap bcuz im ready to become a plague doctor and i see plague doctors and warlocks and othe rrank 7s running around klapedia, i saw one on the 3rd day of ea… idek how bcuz that was when the game was messed up and laggy.

There wasn’t any rank 7 on day 3 of ea.

Something wrong here…

And the fight until level 200 is interesting? Challenging or at least enjoying?

@Zilox
I think you are right, I never experienced this late game RO. Also, I played RO when it had no trans or even second class (those PvP classes).
Btw, I was not talking about RO parties in this thread. Only about Tos parties at 200+.

@kjndst.9x
I study, have social life and play for fun.

@Nakano15
They said mobs 200+ are not viable solo. Forget about singleplayer.
Find parties to keep playing Tos, because monsters will be challenging eventually. And oh, challenge in Tos means that they will kill you in 10 seconds and even some of them have huge HP too lul.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/fu-ck-this-15characters/195174

Sorry but what exactly this " Challenging " mean to you
Mobs are :
Easy to kill = Not Challenging
Hard to kill = Not Challenging
Low damage = Not Challenging
Hard damage = Not Challenging

Solo = Monster too easy = not challenging
Solo = Monster too hard = Not challenging
Monster too hard = must party = not challenging

Sorry but i’m little confuse here.

Haha whai till u get to the instagib spiral archers.

Maps below level 180 can be counted as begginer area or tuturial.

After that level, you wont feel bored anymore.
Mobs hit harder, have more hp and being in a party is mandatory if you dont want to spam pots and die often.

I have an idea, what if maps with mobs from level 1 to 279, are counted as begginer area or tutorial, and the game turns into a raid on level 280 map?
Since challenge on the game can only come on the end?
sarcasm mode off

Had to review my posts. Here you go:
Until 100 - Tutorial, very easy. Challenge = false.
100 to 200 - I dont know, people said it is still easy.
Above 200 - Solo is not viable for every build. If it is impossible, challenge = false. Have party, challenge = true (see quote).

It’s sad because it looks like we are not able to play this game alone after level 200. Also, you dont need parties until 200, then suddenly you need them everyday of your life. Bad gameplay learning curve.

As I said before, challenge means balanced mechanics, not very hard or very easy.

You not answering my question dude
What’s exactly you want this game has to be ?

if you want to be Kirito, be like Kirito.
Have good skill, have good items and also have a good LUCK.