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Miri's amazing money making sca... Suggestion

Idea list

  1. remove all the pretty hats as droppables… And make them cash shop items! I suggest 5-15 dollars per hat.
  2. not only make them cash shop items, but make them only aquirable through gachapon! That why you can get more hooked on gambling for their maid headband.
  3. pay premium service for more hair styling options!
  4. pay premium service to allow your characters costume color scheme to be changed to alternative color schemes!
  5. charge money for guild services XD
  6. charge money to expand guild slots XD!
  7. class Revert capsules! Instead of paying to change a class, pay to revert to a previous class at job level 1! (This might be my worst idea)
  8. voice packs! Pay for different voice packs!
  9. pay for more emoticons!

And remember… Lotteries and gachapons can apply to any of these. You will literally be the devil but nobody can say you were pay to win. Trust me, tons of people I know have shoved thousands into gachapons for their maid outfits. You’ll go far. Also sub weapons… Someone out there will cough up real cash for a vuvuzela or flag guys flag

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You just described every “free to play” MMO out there. You just insert different items.

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Those seems really bad. But i approve it.

I’m surprised at how little I disagree with your suggestions. Except:

Cash shop hats and droppable hats can and should coexist. There’d be next to no reason for going back to grind old areas if there aren’t any droppable hats. Those droppable hats also give you something to look forward to while grinding. It’d be too much of a loss.

Not sure how to feel about this. Specifically the gachapon part. This is how the slippery slope tends to start, both for the devs and the players buying into this.

Seeing as guilds are already tied to a secret class, that’d be a kick in the teeth.

That’s about it. I can agree with everything else. I actually like your revert capsule idea because it doesn’t reward the type of person who would immediately respec after their flavor of the month build gets nerfed.

You can never have too many emoticons :beers:

IN A NUTSHELL

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I dislike this sca… Suggestion a lot, but who knows how they will do this. I think the gachapon will deter me way from cash shop heavily, I would hope they are trade-able to ruin the game economy. Guild slots I somewhat agree with.

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Well, I do agree with the GuildRelatedThings.
It will prevent noo… New Players to create “useless guilds”, at least if they do they will regret it or chose to invest themself more.

I. WANT. CHARACTERS. CUSTOM.
And please, no achievements to get them. Just don’t. I don’t want it, we don’t want it, my Wallet (yes, he wants to spew every single cent he have) don’t want it, and IMC : YOU DON’T WANT THE FACT THAT WE DON’T WANT IT xD

And please. Even if it’s premium, for the love of god :

ADD A RED HAIR COLOR <3 !

More costums would be cool too, I hope that IMC is thinking about this, maybe costum first class locked (Swordman, Archer, etc etc), or perhaps… Not ? I can’t see a wrong point wearing a full shiny plated armor being a Wiz xD (maybe in PvP ?..)

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Only hidden class Templar can create a guild anyway, and only so many people can be Templars. Honestly, my guild sca… Suggestions won’t get implemented because of this.

I’m a horrible person to ever suggest a gachapon or lottery and I personally hate them…

Doesn’t stop them from being hella profitable, though. Most of my suggestions were literally my inner devil speaking. You can go the easy way and do exp boosts, but that will kill the game overall. My suggestions are purified evil

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Personally, I’d rather have a primarily cosmetics-based cash shop model than anything involving boosters of any kind. Other than the things I pointed out, your suggestions really weren’t that bad.

Gachapons = death of my wallet :money_with_wings:

well most of these are fine, I actually like the fact that you clearly spent effort trying not to make it p2w (although as others have pointed out, some features may lie in a gray area)
even if it’s gacha, so long as it is a cosmetic gacha, I don’t see the problem.

dude nothing here is even saying stuff like my suggestion everything @mirioki has nothing gamebraking and just purely EXPENSIVE cosmetic cost

make this guy Nexon’s new CEO plz

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№ 5 and 7 looks wrong in my opinion.

5 - putting part of the core gameplay behind paywall doesn’t work for western mindset.
7 - indeed the worst idea! Instead of leveling a new character from the ground paying players just try all classes too fast and leave the game spending less money. EXP boosters would do way more money for IMC than this crazy idea =)

Also pure gachapon looks too “cheap” for me. I can’t get rid of salty feeling that devs treat me like that rat in Skinner box. There’s better solution though: upgrade materials with higher chance of success. Basically this is the same gachapon, coz this is still a chance. But at least you know what you buy in the first place.

Hair colors are already a thing, you just need to unlock them through achievements and then you can change whenever.

That’s exactly what I said.

Edit : And It doesn’t change the fact that there is NO Reddish Hair Color.

@Mephilin I don’t think @mirioki idea’s is ok, but yours isn’t really good either, it depends of the efficiency of the EXP Boost, but that’s part of a borderline P2W item shop (don’t deny facts : You pay to reach higher lvl faster… In order to have more power)

1.). Is a horrible idea, and its a great way to piss off the player base.

Both 5 and 6 are the absolute worst ideas I’ve ever heard of. Pay walls are not okay.

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I agree to your suggestions from 1 to 4. I don’t usually spend money when playing online games, but when i do, it’s for the outfits/hairs/costume only haha. If ToS will do that, please make sure that those items are worth it. :stuck_out_tongue: