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Mergen build and stats

You provide me something to think about.

Thanks again :wink:

Oh man, I have read the new dev blog and right now I’m even more confused xD.

After rank 7 all new classes will be rank 8 and can advance to circle 2 only (example Mergen last rank is c2 at rank 9)

the part unclear is that rank 9/10/11 that the Horizontal Expansion shows, and also the “master circle” that allow one low-rank class to get better % mod to dmg like rank 8/9 classes.

My question is if there will be rank 10 and 11 (from Horizontal Expansion seem like yes)

really now I’m stuck and don’t have any idea how to plan my build after this dev blog =S

example of 2 ranks 10 toons:

  1. A2SAP3Falc3Mergen2 (hypothetical rank 11 master circle sapper) (made for support and AoE DPS, I know have low single target)

2)A2R3Falc1RO1Mergen2 rank 10 master circle ranger (hypothetical rank 11 A3) (balanced on both single target and AoE with high crit thx A3

do you think is this the way the char progression is going on? or I misunderstood something?

relax, dev blog means the max job rank is rank 8, i.e: archer rank7 are musketeer and cannoner, right?
in the future archer rank 8 option will at least has 2 more choice: mergen, hakka, A, B, C, D


A will be introduced first, after some months passed B will be introduced and then C and then D, to keep us interested enough to continue playing
My prediction is you can only choose total 10 rank of job, rank 1-7 and then rank 8 to rank8 circle3.
Mergen will be go up to c3.

The maximum character rank will still increase from 8 to 9, meaning each character will be able to advance into a maximum of 9 classes, including the Circle 2 of current Rank 8 classes. They will be implemented separately from the level expansions and other new content updates.

here say max of 9 classes that mean mergen max c2 (even if is strange all classes have rank 3) maybe is just another unclear description

maximum 9 rank is only for nearest update, but they give example character rank 9,10,11.
in the future mergen c3 will come out unless IMC doesnt make it next year

I’m thinking of something strange, but that makes sense, try to follow my reasoning.

Looking at horizontal expansion, for now, we can considerate 11 ranks (because IMC showed them and I don’t think is just random)

Considering overall situation and not only rank 8 classes, make sense that R8 classes will have 2 ranks instead of common 3, that’s why:

Talking about archers if we take as example rank 7 (cannoneer and musketeer) they will never be able to get c3 rank 8, but with only 2 circle of R8 classes, if they use the rank 11 (that I assume is for master rank) will be able to get c2 (max circle for R8 classes) trading the master circle.

Also with this system, rank 6 classes will be able to get c2 rank 8 classes and also master circle (if r8 will have c3 rank 6 classes will be able to get c3 at rank 11, in trade of master rank)

And with this system R5 classes like Fletcher that is forced to pick c3 to be at full potential, and after is forced to pick r8 will make them able to have 1 filler rank at rank 10, making possible for them to pick at last 1 circle of those classes they will never able to. Example A3Scout1FL3Mergen2Falcon1 Master rank Fletcher

If you apply this system to the 4 classes you understand that create a more larger and solid class system, better than stuck players with c3 rank 8 classes, making more liberty to create different and unique builds.

But this is just a theory and I may be wrong. But honestly the IMC post sounds pretty much unclear as always, I need to wait for more sure information.

Also if you think, now we have already 2 r8 choices, with lvl 350 will be 4 but no rank 9 yet.After 6 months of the release of the new r8 classes will be introduced more r8 classes.

If you are a rank 6c3 or rank 7c3 you will be always inferior in terms damage to the rank 8 circle 3 classes.

You will say yes is for this that they have made (probably) rank 11 and master circle to give classes like em the power of rank 8+ skills.

But what about, if Rank 8 will be c3 at rank 10, there will be rank 11 with the master circle and rank 8 c3 will still be able to make the master circle to one low class. making him have 2 classes with skills that deals lots of dmg. (high skill % dmg)

for make a real example:

A2SAP3Fal1Musket3 Rank 10 1 r8 classes at c1 and at rank 11 master musket.

vs

A3SCOUT1FL3Mergen3 master rank fletcher.

you can imagine who have the better skills with better % dmg with circle 3 rank 8 the game may be unbalanced for those classes that in the 80% of cases rerolling for rank 8 c3.

because rank 8 classes will be released every 6 months so the choice will be huge and the c3 will become a must.

With R8 C3 the choice will be: have a rank 6 - 7 C3 classes and make it master to damage like R8+ skills,

or

Have the R8 C3 class with the master in one lower class, making in the same build 2 classes with skill dmg like R8+ instead of 1 only.

For this have only 2 circles in R8 would help a bit to balance those things making R6 classes be able to get R8 c2 + master circle

And rank 7 able to get R8 c2 in trade of master rank

So rank 7 will be able to choose if master their r7 class for better dmg, or if mix it with an r8 c2 and skip the master rank.

for me sound more balanced with c2 only, but again is just a theory.

dont think too far, this is IMC we are talking about, they never fail to destroy our current meticulously planned build. Just enjoy this moment to the fullest.

This don’t work that way, Mergen will only have C2 at the max, so in rank 10 you will have to pick another rank 8 or lower class. Not really a problem because every new class right now will be Rank 8 or less

Exactly what I mean

and if we think about this:

The reason we decided on this model was that, no matter the total number of class ranks, the classes that pack the most punch are usually the ones in the last one or two ranks, which ends up limiting your class build choices. We wanted to create a system that was fairer to future updates.

make r8 c3 with rank 11 to master one lower rank class would be too strong compared to one rank 7c3 class master because the skill set available for rank 7 will be much more limited in terms of dmg % compared to r8c3 + master circle

but i’m still waiting for a official post that will clarify our ideads, after that i can plan a build, before could be just a waste at this point.

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