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Melee Paladin build. Leave your opinion pls. :D

Class and Rank Cleric
#21

I think Cleric C3 is too much, it will not improve the build (principally a STR one) as much as Diev would, if the problem here is getting Diev C1 he will need to rethink a few things - including his reasons! The problem with Diev is that it uses wood and not explosives/fire or cool special effects? xD

If there is a problem with the Cleric C2 > something > Paladin C3 structure it’s better to change the base of it. But now I don’t get it, @Lockius didn’t like the way Paladin works as a class or the problem is just in the first ranks? Because a Priest C3 would not change the way Paladin C3 is!

Edit: Why don’t you try the Monk build Menech suggested?

#22

I reread the OP and if you like to pvp id just drop paladin and go with the menech’s suggestion. cleric>priest3>monk3.

but heres a crazy idea. What of, instead of ending up in MonkC3 you go oracle. you only gain one ability that you cant use often in C3 monk. With oracle you get counter spell, an awesome buff that increases STA and SP, forecast for pve stuff and some other skill that im not sure what they do…So counter spell to take away magic damage and stone skin to take away physical.

Just a thought. I like it though. I left 6 points in the priest tree that you could move wherever.

#23

My focus will be on PvP/GvG and i already told you that ._.
And i dont try the monk build cuz i want Paladin >:
I’ll do PvE only for 3 reasons: lvl up/drops/fun
I want to be a supp on PLAYER VS PLAYER and that’s why i want to be able to deal some damage so i can defend myself and not just drop some heals and run like a chiken, got it?

I think the more healer build i’ve posted before is kinda good for what i want, check it out again

And have in mind that i’ll focus on “tank” stats so i can survive long enough to be a pain in the behind for the enemy team and yes…priest is more to ress my team and for blessing of course to increase my smite powah so i can lvl up solo.

#24

Are you locked into paladin or would you consider other classes? Paladin can be the hybrid you want for pve but in pvp they will struggle. Other classes would be better at healing and doing damage in pvp/gvg like Bokor or monk.

If you’re set on paladin your other ranks are limited. Cleric2 has become more necessary and paladin really shines with 3 ranks, so you’re only left with two ranks left. You said you don’t want to go diev so you’re limiting yourself further. If pvp is your goal I think you’ve chosen the wrong class. Paladin is better for pve purposes. And I’m saying this having played one. I liked paladin and will make one again but they aren’t great for pvp.

#25

Yeah i know but barbarian was a beast at pvp with high damage+CC and know i dont see anyone with barb…we all hope that pala will receive the attention he needs and will be buffed to be something more balanced.

But maybe you right…think i should change my class for pvp…maybe a psyc or a musk…dunno

#26

Ok, man. Neither of my builds would have you dropping heals and running like a chicken.

Good luck with your build.

#27

@Gringe
Hmm… I’m not sure if choosing Oracle C1 for the end of this build is safe, not all skills will have the expected effect during PvP (and when used against others). I don’t know much about Oracle so I can’t add much in there… Did you try something?
Anyway, rank 7 will take time so, again, you have time to decide what to do while you play and learn more your build.

@Lockius
I seriously think you will do better using what Menech suggested. You said before you wanted to be Paladin, but I think you had (have?) a different idea of how Paladin works as a class. And… you told me that? I apologize if I didn’t understand you wanted PvP, for me you were more concerned about support for parties in PvE haha

If this is the case you shouldn’t get Paladin at all. There are other support builds you can go for PvP, but you need a new perspective. Did you research at least a little around the Cleric area? I think this would help you to understand better what you are looking for!

And… Are you giving up on cleric or will just change directions? Now I’m lost about what you want to do lol xD

#28

If not paladin i would need to choose between full sup with something like cleric C3 Priest C3 or go for a magic supp and if i would use magic…well why not wyzz? Besides that i would need to pick monk to keep melee and i dont like monk that much. x.x

#29

Err… Mage class and Cleric class are different, this doesn’t make much sense. It all depends on your way of playing and what you want to do. You can’t be the super healer, buffer, tanker and have lasers.

Cleric C3 doesn’t work that well, you have better options by combining Cleric C2 and… You don’t resume a whole build to 3 ranks. Did you do any research on Cleric builds?

Maybe you just don’t like Cleric class? Apparently it doesn’t suit what you want. Why you keep insisting over Cleric (very specific Cleric builds actually) if in the end you don’t want other options apart from something that doesn’t work outside a misinterpretation of class? @@

#30

If melee is what you want the only cleric branches that focus on that are paladin, monk or chaplain.

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#31

I do like cleric…but i know what is to be a “slave” cuz i’ve played priest at RO and i was always needing people to do anything…lvl up, pvp, quest…it suks! I just dont want to repeat it here so i’m trying to pick a supp that can do things solo. If you tell me that this build will not depend on other people for nothing then it’s ok to me but if it do…well u got the idea right?

And i’m rly thinking at the second build to be a trouble to the other team at pvp

I just want to know if this build is good, not perfect, and i’ll be able to do things even if i dont support as a full support or kill people like a true dps but if u tell me “yes, this will help your team and you’ll deal some damage” so that’s what i’ll do but if u think i should change some skills or stats to make it work just tell me…got it now? I just dont know cleric here in ToS and that’s why i’m asking for help with some other people that do know the class.

#32

Here is an example of two cleric classes doing 2v2 pvp on Ktos:

The youtuber is an int-based bokor/druid/pd. His partner in this video is a priest/monk. These are two cleric builds that work well in pvp. In comparison Paladins may survive decently but have a lot of problems killing other players since their only damage skill is smite, which is close range with a long animation.

#33

Rly nice this one but holy ■■■■…this guy is doing some serious damage! o.o
Kinda liked it but i’m more to support my team…or was…crap look what you’ve done to me! T_T

#34

I recommend watching more of his videos for a better idea of classes in pvp. I just chose that one because there were two clerics with totally opposite builds.

#35

Ok, we have some focus now haha
Before it got a bit confusing but now you just stated exactly what you need in one shot without going against the build you are asking for.

This build works, yes. If you learn how to play with it you will be able to be a decent healer, protect your party and do some dps. You will be able to solo too, Paladin C3 is good for PvE. For PvP you can add some CON and survive, heal and ress your party, use PD skills here and there, etc, but Paladins will not do great in PvP when compared to other PvP typical classes. At least not for now.

Btw, I suggest you max Divine Might instead of Cure!

I completely understand your confusion with this mechanic! It’s a different system from RO and other games, I always played as FS too and I know how we usually were asked to cover many different roles in a party. I actually liked that for the challenge - and only when I was playing with someone who knew wth they were doing, of course (and polite people) haha
The way ToS works with the idea of support is not that bad, and it’s fun having to learn again how to build something functional (and trying to focus more on what exactly we liked in supporting roles!). Imagine that the classical FS and cleric classes we know from other games were fragmented and each fragment could have a new purpose when rearranged xD

And hey, if you like PvP I think it is worth researching more about different suitable classes and builds! You don’t need to be Paladin! You can build something that can be used decently in PvP and PvE.

#36

Not that opposite…both “dps” but one is magic and the other physical.
I do enjoy magic and caster and stuff but this bokor build dont seem to be a good support. What u think?

#37

I am thinking about a different class…but that’s sad cuz i rly like paladin but i’ll manage something else. Thing is…i want to balance supp with damage, supp as a main role cuz cleric cant be true dps(if i’m wrong slap me in the face right now and tell me how to) but leave dps to a secondary/needed role. Now i dont care too much for melee anymore, let’s give caster a shot so if you guys have anything in mind in a build like this i’ll love to read. This one guy at the video posted is insane and i loved it but it seem’s to be a little more damage and less heal but i can be wrong and if i am just tell me.

#38

I did the same, but I felt quite opposite.

I really liked the feel of Smite, animation felt powerful and damage was decent. (Definitely an upgrade from being just a battle priest and auto-attacking)

Once I got monk, I actually regretted not going c2 Paladin. :stuck_out_tongue:

One of the characters that I’m planning will definitely be a c3 Paladin, with c3 Priest and Chaplain, once more ranks are available. ;p

#39

I think the problem with his build is he’s only cleric 1. I’d go cleric 2 for heal 10, safety attribute and divine might. Some combo of krivis, bokor and druid for damage. Like cleric 2, krivis 1, bokor 2, druid 1, pd. You could even replace pd for kabbalist or druid 2, but pd would be the best for gvg.

#40

Oh no pd for sure…but his krivis i kinda dont like…i mean, krivis is great but for PvE…zaibas é kinda hard to hit on PvP and i dont see him using much of krivis skills so i could put priest on this spot for the ress skill. What you guys think?