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McPunch, Monk Build

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#21

Monk skills are purely physical based. For the krivis build int only improves heal, cure and Zaibas. Zaibas is only taken to 5 to help with aoe dmg while leveling.

Imo statwise you should pick:
Str + Con. With like a 10/1 ratio. Or probably even more str then con.

Str + Dex + Con. With say a 5/5/1 ratio. Gives crit damage, accuracy and evasion, quite a good combo to have overall.

Str + Spr + Con. Not sure about ratio. Spr for improving the debuffs/buffs quite dramatically.

Str + Dex + Spr + Con same reasoning as above, but for the crit variant. Not sure about distribution either.

#22

thanks alot, you my hero!

#23

HI i want to say this post helped me a lot but I have one question of the stats allocation option wurmheart put wich is the best one a monk should pick. mostly for a pve with little pvp and some solo pve

#24

Iā€™m not sure which is better for pvp tbh. Though priest is definitely harder to kill.
But the krivis crit buff/debuff should also add a fair deal of damage. Esp if you tossed in some spr.
Yet the priest adds +210 dmg per hit with maxed blessing and sacrament and potentially adds another hit ontop of it. (works with auto attacks, does not work on cure/heal and not sure about other skills yet) Which shouldnā€™t be anything to scoff at either.

Alternatively you could also consider a cleric, priest, dievdirby2, Monk2 build if you want to pvp. The silence statue is a very strong skill to shut down opponents. But itā€™s not as good as it used to be, and has less dmg and survivability when the statue is down. But seems overall less desirable for pve.

#25

Hi,

I was planning to go Krivis -> monk and am allocating INT:SPR 2:1 (lvl 23) right now and then reset stat points later. My question is, regarding solo leveling and party leveling, which would be more advantageous for those who are grinding their monk:INT krivis or STR priest?

#26

Monk needs STR as its main stat.

#27

I need help,
stats for this build http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/woqzw3378a/

#28

Hey Wurmheart, I was planning on doing something along the lines of Cleric 2> Dievdirby 1> Pally 1> Monk. Is Paladin just not as useful for someone going into a slightly more defensive monk? Iā€™ve been planning to allocate my STR/DEX/CON along the lines of 3/2/1. I was mostly interested in the sp reduction and cooldowns of Dievdirby and elemental resistances of Paladin.

#29

You can do it just fine, i just donā€™t see it competing with priest2/3 or krivis3 even.
Bit of a side note btw: Priest 2 is surprisingly good, with the blessing attribute and sacramentā€™s utility it still adds plenty of damage and gets aspersion, mass heal, revive and resurrect. Priest 3 is not as mandatory as i expected.

And that is imo largely for 2 reasons:

A: Leveling takes a while, circle 4 is somewhat around lvl 70. Circle 5 is past 100, etc etc. The sooner you have ways to attack enemies that scale with your main stats the better. And monk/paladin attacks take a while to get. So yes the classes prior to that determine quite a bit.

B: Both krivis and priest scale the damage you will do with auto attacks and attack skills. Krivis improves crit dmg/chance and adds str/int while priest adds x dmg per hit + extra dmg with auto attacks.

The other options for leveling donā€™t have either of that typically speaking:

  • Cleric2 and cleric3 adds almost nothing dmg wise for non int builds. And even then cure is practically only good vs bosses. Divine might helps a bit, but itā€™s nerfed quite badly. Otherwise a good amount of defensive skills though but weā€™re clerics. just heal and safety zone from cleric1 will keep you alive for ages.
  • Bokor actually has one skill that scales with str, i keep forgetting the name though. Either way youā€™d need bokor2 and itā€™s not very tempting compared to the alternatives.
  • Dievdirby is excellent support, but carve is to niche (long cd, only good dmg vs plants) and carve owl is again int based and has a short duration at circle 2. Silence is decent but mostly shines in pvp, not so much in pve.
  • Sadhu only scales with int, so ignore it.
  • Paladin only starts being a option at circle 4. And itā€™s actually quite decent. Even if youā€™ll likely never use smite again when you get the second circle of monk.

tl/dr:

Best picks:

  • Cleric, Priest3, Monk2
  • Cleric, Priest2, Krivis, Monk2.
  • Cleric, Priest2, Dievdirby, Monk2
  • Cleric, Priest2, Paladin, Monk2
  • Cleric, Krivis3, Monk2

Secondary picks, far more annoying to level and have less direct damage and defenses. Might provide better utility for pvp or elsewhere:

  • Cleric, Priest, Dievdirby2, Monk2. Gets to silence enemies with totems, should be good in pvp.
  • Cleric, Priest, Bokor2, Monk2. Zombie train of pain. Not very good for pvp.

There is however one cave eat to this all: aka pardoners.
Pardoners can sell you several of the priest/krivis buffs. (Aspersion/Blessing/sacrament from spell shop, Zalciai/Monstrance/Daino scrolls)
So even less optimal classes can still compete, for a price. But i donā€™t expect to see many during this closed beta tbh.

Still not entire sure about Str/Dex ratio for clerics now a days. Definitely want somewhere between 5/5 and 1/3 though.

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#30

Thanks for the in-depth response, I really appreciate it! I considered Krivis before I started making my build, but initially decided against it. Now that Iā€™m thinking about the stats I want to use it makes a lot more sense to go into that. I also didnā€™t know DM got nerfed badly, so that changes a lot. Gonna have to restart, but at least I can have a build going into the launch now. If Iā€™m doing a STR/DEX/CON build would it be worth it to add a small amount of SPR? I just notice during long fights it becomes very easy to run out of SP and potions have a 30 second cooldown.

#31

Spr works wonders for these builds, you get improved debuffs (zalciai, deprotected zone, monstrance) and improved stone skin.
So feel free, should be fine.

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#32

HI Wurm, Would Priest3 or Krivis3 be better for leveling solo?

#33

Iā€™m not sure if thereā€™s to much of a difference between the two to be honest. At least not in total.

Krivis should start out strong with zaibas, but it doesnā€™t scale well for long. But zalciai and divine stigma get better as you get higher ranks, with it being better at circle 3.

Priest gets most of his offensive buffs to shine in circle 2, but has to spend a lot of time and money on improving the blessing attribute. Priest 3 isnā€™t a huge offensive difference compared to that though, more so defensively. And the cost of it will delay getting a companion for quite a while.

Either way youā€™re going to hit a rough patch for a bit.

#34

If people want 1st character be a monk, its easier for Cleric->Krivis->Krivis->Krivis->Monk->Monk, but if they already have a lot of money and couple friends to transfer money to character, they can go Priest route easily.

#35

There is one more way to build your monk that Wurmheart skipped -> cleric-pirest-priest-krivis-monk-monk. Iā€™m trying this build atm and I am pretty happy with it (Iā€™m playing full dex character). The thing is, I think it is worth skipping c3 priest and losing around 52dmg from buffs and stone skin for lvl 5 zalciai which with maxed attibute gives us 137 crit attack.

The other question is: how good will blessing and sacrament be at higher levels (like 300+)? they combined give 250 dmg which is nice but will it be better than 200 crit attack from lvl15 zalciai at high levels? I think not. I think zalciai sadly is the better buff( for builds with high dex/crit rate). The only huge downside is that zalcaiā€™s duration is bad and that it is a magic circle which is not ideal.

I acutally really like the fact that people are not forced to the 'one best build" and that there is a big diversity in monk builds :slight_smile:

#36

Priest 2 is surprisingly better then i initially expected. Priest 3 does offer some more defensive utility, higher def and block. But the dmg increase is really irrelevant.

Might even consider cleric2 for divine might. Though krivis isnā€™t that bad if you use spr.

And i think itā€™s to early to tell with blessing/sacrament. It depends alot on what new classes weā€™ll get. As long as some combinations will still use auto attacks at max level then sacrament will be golden. Blessing prob not as much.

But if most classes at lvl 500 never auto attack again (aside of sadhu, which ignores blessing/sacrament anyway) then i really donā€™t see the two buffs being important in any way.

#38

may i know the stats for the first build you pointed outā€¦ tnx

#39

Same as stats i posted above;

Physical builds have 4 different takes on it imo:

Str + Con for standard physical damage dealer.
Str + Con + Spr for physical dmg dealer with better buffs/debuffs and larger sp pool.
Str + Dex + Con standard crit based damage dealer. (only physical attacks can crit anyway)
Str + Dex + Con + Spr for crit based dmg dealer with better buffs/debuffs and larger sp pool.

Priest3 is best with a dash of spr imo for the insane boost to stone skin.
Krivis builds are best build partially dex due to how zalciai works. which also scales nicely with spr.

Thereā€™s some who are trying out pure dex builds, but iā€™m not convinced that they are a viable option for monks yet. But if thereā€™s more items like the golden falchion i might very well be wrong on that. (aka high crit dmg weapons)

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#40

Hi want to know if cleric-priest-priest-priest-monk monk is a good way to build towards Monk, or if there is a better combination, if so how i should distribute my stats. ty in advance (iam new)

#41

so wurmheart how did you end up building and how are you liking it, if you went priest do you think krivis would have been better and visa versa.

if priest did you get high level monstrance, how do you feel about it?