[Little Rant] How a Kugheri Symbani's Sword will make me quit the game

[dragonfeian]

@staff @STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Letitia @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Ethan

Hey staff, you’ll probably had countless feedbacks like this one, but it won’t do any bad adding one.
Today, and by today I intend almost three hours ago (and it’s 5am here), I decided to start farming my first 2 practo weapon, an Aspana. I knew it would be difficult, but I didn’t imagine that farming means losing time.

As you can imagine, I killed Kugheri Symbani during all the night, let’s say 1005 of them, and dropping a mind blowing 0 Kugheri Symbani’s Sword. To add saltiness to an already aimless night of playing, I even welcomed a lovely guy with an Aspana +11 stage 8, that came right to steal the drop, killing enemies like they were candles while I was trying my best to make my day.

Now, my real question is: do you rly think this is a good design? And even more, do you rly think your game will grow this way?
I’m not an incredible player, I have just 1100 hours of gameplay, but I’ll probably stop playing after this experience. One thing is trying a difficult thing, another one is losing time thanks to wrecked game design.

I’m pretty sure that you’ll never answer to this topic, as you haven’t replied even when I pointed out the entire list of bots who farmed for an entire night at Tenet Church. The same bot I reported and yet are there, even now. And i’m also sure that a lot of ppl will come, saying how now the game is easy and great.
Well, it is not. A game should be challeging, here I don’t see challenges but frustration harbored thanks to a design so wrong that I don’t get how it was implemented.

TL;DR = Salty player is salty at losing three hours of his life, and sleep, trying to drop the very first mat for his Aspana. He’ll probably stop playing, but he’s not sure atm.

[RoastedPeanuts]

This game punishes anyone who tries to go hardcore. You should either wait for the new cube that gives p2w orange recipe without the need of dpk material or just quit.

[A1mighty]

Imagine spending 3 hours killing a mob then you see someone come for 5 minutes and get the drop you were hunting. This pretty much is why the current DPK system is absolute rubbish. Also the game seems to be losing its hold on me as well so I understand your sentiment. Even if you were to get all the end game gear/loots what then?

[ZeroFoxGiven]

someone come for 5 minutes and get the drop you were hunting

At one time, that was me. Some other times, I was just like OP.

Only those who can clear mobs very fast (which requires decent investment in gear and attributes) benefits from the current system.

[myself]

or with your 2 practonium you can craft 1 silverhawk+1double stack.

[tetris0811]

pathetic kid, i crafted my 2 practo weapon only using a clean 170 harvester with almost level 50 attributes on all skill took me a week to craft an abdochar with total of 10k+ ok dpk on lyoni.

[j2512967]

They will never give a dang about bots even tho I have been reported so many bot user and you know what? They are still there.

[Seiran]

Just a reminder that DPK is still bugged recently, you might have gotten 0 drops because of the bug:

DPK Bug again ?D:?

Like always i go all the mornings to farm kugheri sword, before the dpk broke with the bug i get my swords in like 500-600 DPK, now after this bug i come to drop again and i dont drop nothing in around 3 hrs and 1572 kill's, have the possibility to have a bug again and dont drop nothing?, i already drop 260 Kugheri Cloth, 84 Kugheri ornament, 8 Blue Orb and 2 Red Orb but no one sword D: (and im alone in the ch) …

[Artreides]

clap clap to you. hope you’re happy defending an absolute rubbish of a game design.

[jchang10931]

Most games go to pot once the developers decide to put on their jerkass hat for the end game.

[nightrain_scy]

I gave up orange since long ago, i dont want put myself into their shoe of bad content design.

I just play the content that I enjoy.

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Don’t quit~! hahaha Do this:

Taking advantage of transcendence now that it's giving back 90% of spent shards on extraction

Maybe not for the hardcore ones since getting orange 315's probably isn't a problem for them. Don't let RNG get in the way of fun I'm still hearing people saying they're just saving up their shards for when they get their purple/orange 315 - and yeah even if it takes them weeks to months. I myself have 2 mystical cubes already that I've been trying my luck on for months now (already rolled another char to 317+ and first cube still isn't giving me prac yet, f*cking RNG). So I went to ht…

…then focus on your improving your armor set and attributes instead (unless you already did) since we’ll likely be getting new gear by R9 anyways.

Continue with the game and maybe eventually with enough silver from other sources you can just buy the gun or mats directly from other players, or trade your 2 pracs + shards.

YOLO!

I just play the content that I enjoy.

[Borel]

you can just buy the gun or mats directly from other players

Follow this advice. I started to farm like three weeks ago with two sr3 and recently a thauma linker and i’m currently at 70m. Orange 315 are around 100m, so probably in one more week i will get one. Not sure if i wanna an aspana or an astra bow

[randomranter]

i crafted my aspana without hunting yellow leafnuts and kugheri symbanis. I spent my time earning silvers on different methods instead of relying on the stupid DPK. I also try to predict how the market prices fluctuate, especially with the recent leticia cube that gave chances to produce 315 dpk mats. Though i can say this method is not for everyone.

P.S.
I’m now more annoyed with Mystical cube, i now have 4 characters opening that damned cube daily, still no (2nd) practo. Worse thing is that i can’t and don’t play everyday mainly due to work constraints (I get to visit places without wifi/internet). Would’ve been better if it gave the practo outright.

[Sciguma]

here I don’t see challenges but frustration harbored thanks to a design so wrong that I don’t get how it was implemented.

You are not salty. You simply see how horrible this whole maximum rng/dpk slap in the face system is. My advice: Quit and come back for Rank 9 to enjoy the good parts of the game. You don’t need top gear anyways.

[dragonfeian]

@LunarRabbit thanks for the tip. It seems random, not something we can do anything about. Basically a RNG effect of a RNG

@ZeroFoxGiven thanks as well. I’ll check what I can do about it. If I go this route I will have to decide between my SR and my sair3, since trascendence will lock my weapons (+13 Migantis Pistol and +6 Cata Blade/ +6 Isbality). What do you think between the two char? (or a thauma/FF that I have)

@randomranter I’m opening 4 as well. I know your feeling, bro ;(

@Sciguma I know myself, if I stop now I won’t come back again. That’s why I’m in doubt on my choice.

And finally… @tetris0811, I don’t know which are your problems. I’m a 34 years old guy, with a job, a wife (who plays with me, fortunately) and a life. Good for you that you can spend a single week, amassing 10k+ kills to craft an Abdochar. It seems to me you’re the kiddo, probably one of those that doesn’t have anything else to do than play online… my suggestion: reduce the kills and invest some time to learn how to be polite with ppl. You’ll gain something and won’t embarass yourself again.

[ZeroFoxGiven]

If I go this route I will have to decide between my SR and my sair3, since trascendence will lock my weapons (+13 Migantis Pistol and +6 Cata Blade/ +6 Isbality). What do you think between the two char? (or a thauma/FF that I have)

That pistol seems luckily well-upgraded, though if you have the silver I’d recommend buying a lv.315 (pevordimas) blue instead and make it +6 — just the non-max slotted ones that are already identified since people tend to sell them significantly cheaper than unidentified or max-slot ones.

If you’re lucky to find someone selling a cheap max-slot though (like priced just 25% more than the low-slot identified ones) then go for it. I wouldn’t recommended risking for an unidentified unless it’s a very cheap HG gear.

I say this because you’ll want as much base damage from the weapon as possible to benefit from transcendence (enhancements no longer scale with transcendence).

As for which char, I guess we all have different goals: I transcended the spear for my Murmillo since I mainly wanted to TBL with it (most fun content for me) so it benefits me the most in that aspect. If my primary goal was to hunt/farm, maybe with a farmer. If I wanted to ET/Solmiki, maybe a build suited to those kind of content as well.

Since my Murmillo is the fastest killer now in my team, I just farm with it too even though I used to farm with my SR (now SapperMergen). If I enjoyed using a wiz class, maybe I would have rolled and transcended for a true farming/hunting build like LinkThaumFF.

The top criteria for me is fun, so I went with that decision.

[angel2kk4]

i have 18k kills lyony kills and only 31horns, spend many days and weeks
and now me need 41 green charog horn, but i not can spend weeks for farm mats
i sword with +0 315 blue wep(

[sleepychotz]

DPK is shaitty mechanic, For me i prefer a very low drop rate, at least i know its purely RNG, they wanna stop the bot farming the material but the cons heavily outweigh the pros and punishing real players.

[Hachigatsu]

Don’t give up. A few days ago I farmed during 7h before get any Kugheri Lyoni Horns (over 3k kills for nothing). And this night, I got 18 Green Charog Horns in 6h (I’m thauma so let’s say 9 Horns). It’s random, it hurts but sometimes you will get lucky too. Take your time, don’t demotivate you. I would recommend to spend less time trying to get these items and say to yourself if you got a horn in less than a hour then it’s cool and worth to go on and if not then let’s just try another day. I wish you good luck anyway.