Yes, there’s a dual stance guide and I’d go that route if it wasn’t for constant weapon swapping. Spears seem the better weapon for swordies overall but I don’t like the classes that use them.
I forgot this is a full CON build/thread. Fencer would be bad in this case, you’re right.
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I’ve heard that Hoplite was a bad pick on a build with pelt 2-3 mostly because it doesn’t bring much compared to something like rodelero. The finestra block buff isn’t that amazing since you’ll already be stacking CON so your block should be high enough anyway.
I’m tempted to do a tanky build with hoplite that would be something like:
Sw1 > Pelt 2 > hop 3 > dragoon 1
Or sw 1 > pelt 1 > hop 3 > squire 1 > drg 1
Then again since there might be a future spear class in rank 8, I’m thinking that
Pelt 3 > Rode 2 > drg 1
would be the much better choice.
Finestra is a great skill overall, 3 AoE attack ratio (Attribute), 50-150 Crit rate, and % Block depending your rank.
Stabbing hits multiple times, which brings alot of dps on Leather type mobs (ex: mercernary missions)
I’d stay with this one, i play Hoplite as well, and as a semi-Tank (36k hp) my durability drops in less than 30 min, having a Squire1 helps alot.
I regret taking Peltasta2, sometimes Swash Buckling bugs and don’t provoke the whole targets it says at lvl 10 (16) and that, pissed me the f**k off. Plus High guard’s Block is not so required to tank mobs. A good shield + equipment, and you’ll be fine.
Updates on my build have been added for the upcoming rank 8
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Well what kind of tank are you aiming for? I might be able to craft one that may suit your style
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ah for that here’s a tank build im currently testing. I’m at the Doppel1 part already and it’s pretty amusing. You take Highlander1 for the 2H Attr and crossguard. Then Doppel cause spinning. Pretty fun build to play to be honest. Stat build is 100 con and the rest on STR and green gems on armor. Full Plate for reasons.
Always have a shield and 1H on the weapon switch you will need it
So with murmillo 1 and drg 2’s introduction, we’ve got 2 new paths that open up here: either full tank or support tank.
We don’t know much yet but from what was said, murmillo’s helmet stance lets you block magic. Whether this is actually dependant on block stat and how much dependency it has on it, we don’t know. And whether murmillo is locked into sword/blunt + shield we don’t know either. In a way, murmillo would also “discard” the need of slithering from rode 2 but would still work well with rode 2.
Let’s say we want a build that maximizes block rate:
Sw1 > pelt 3 (maxed high guard) > hop 3 (maxed finestra) > murmi 1
Though I highly doubt people will absolutely want to maximize block since high CON = high block to begin with.
Theorizing that spear is still usable as murmillo:
Sw1 > pelt 2 (lv5 high guard) > hop 2 (lv10 finestra for 100% uptime) > x (your choice really) > drg 1 (lv5 gae bulg for the atk/def buff zone) > murmi 1
Usually you’d want hop 3 for 0 cd spear throw but it seems that murmi has a 0cd aoe skill, or at least a skill with 3 to 4 overheat from the gif previews.
More importantly you’d be able to spend a lil bit less points in con and put them in str or dex since the blockrate will be so high, and you’d still have a small party buff from drg1.
Now for theory support tank:
Pelt 3 > rode 2 > drg 2
Pelt 2 > rode 3 > drg 2
Pelt 2 > rode 2 > x (again, anything works here) > drg 2
-you’d still have access to spears thanks to drg
-you’d be able to put the def/atk zone buff, the +100% damage from all melee source on boss AND the +100% strike damage from slithering/high kick and I’m pretty sure everyone in your party will love you for that
-you’d still be able to deal with magic dmg thanks to slithering
Considering all those damage multipliers you get you’ll most likely do great damage even while full con anyway. Only thing is that you won’t have a 0cd skill to spam.
Thoughts?
Edit:
And of course pelt 3 > squire 3 > murmi 1 will be an excellent choice still
Doesn’t Rodelero provide the most slash buffs? So it won’t bring out the most of self buffs when going spear user.
I also think that if you want more dps a doppel would be more optimal since it has better longer duration AoE skills.
I thought rodelero brought strike buffs, not slash buffs?
On a side not a pelt 3 rode 3 murmi 1 would do loads of damages since apparently murmi boosts every shield attack.
Then it’s strike my bad…It was either one of the two 
But still same story, wont synchronize with pierce aka spear.
I thought those weren’t self buffs but debuffs on mob, so that would boost up your entire party?
What would you recommend for a Pelt 3 > X > Dragoon 2 build?
Pelt3>Hoplite2>Dragoon2
or
Pelt3>Cata2>dragoon2
eitherway youd end up with debuffs so i’d suggest go hoplite for the synergy or cata cause for some reason you hate hoplite to go full debuff tank go
Pelt3>Rodel2>dragoon2
It’s unfortunate cata doesn’t give the 1h spear mastery by itself, otherwise a very effective build would be:
Pelt 3 > Cata 3 > Murmillo 1
You’d either need to drop a rank of pelt for hoplite, or a rank of cata for dragoon.
Pelt 2 > Hop 1 > Cata 3 > Murmillo 1
Pelt 3 > Cata 2 > DRG 1 > Murmi 1
Pelt 3 > hop 1 > Cata 2 > Murmi 1
Pelt 2 > Cata 3 > DRG 1 > Murmi 1
Those could work though.
Very insightful comment that ought to be incredibly useful to anyone reading this thread.
If i feel like playing again i will experiment with a AoE tank
SW> Pelt 3 > Barb 1 > Doppel 3
3-1 4-1 str-con
Since i already have a squire 3 and can share my own camp and food buffs i need to pump far less Con
This build will focus on both good solo farming and team grinding, perhaps even good ET
Lure 21 mobs and spin 2 win everything to death. Barb will get cleave buff ( slash dmg ) cyclone is slash too.
207 Pelt C3 / Rode C2 (Was planning on going Rod C3)
Don’t go down this path, its extremely painful leveling and even with the current buffs we got and Murmillo announcement. I still don’t think it’s worth 280 level of hell for a chance at redemption with Murmillo.
You think Rode 3 will revive your build with shooting star and high kick debuff?