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Class and Rank Archer
#82

What is falbconer nerf?

#83

Cannoneer skills have an AOE ratio of 4. You need falconeer if you want rape a big mob pull with a cannonblast crit. Not only this, it turns lvl 10+ multishot into a heck of an AOE as well. It is one skill that upgrades two. Of course you could use AOE ratio gear but it wouldnt get to the level of what a circling can do. And haveing a hawk is so badass.

And any source regarding that circling nerf? I read all these patch files, i just couldnt find it. >> http://pastebin.com/u/sunhwapark

#84

I think the one that he is saying is the Circling + Snipe nerfed

like this:

Snipe area nerfed:


(please double check as I cannot open, office atm)

#85

I have been researching about this circling nerf and could not find any reliable info about it aside from the sniping AOE nerf, which was what allowed it to instabang lots of enemies inside the circling AOE.

#86

And you will do fine without falconeer. Remember that circling is a support skill for your other skills, if you want AOE, cannoneer offers a lot of it for only one circle.

#87

Circling can reduce the monster AoE defense ratio to 0, however in ktos they changed it so that the lowest you can reduce a target AoE defense ratio is 1. So technically, this make circling useless to waste one class rank for it.

#88

I see its suck then

ty for answer

#89

nerfing was a rumor. It was snipe+circling was too strong so they nerf the combo by decrease snipe aoe circle radius, not about circling or monster aoe def can’t become 0 like the rumor.(I heard the rumor for about a month, but haven’t seen any solid evidence of the circling nerf )

even if it is true circling is still benefit those skill which has some aoe atk ratio(like cannoneer skill) make them hit more enemies instead of hit everythings, those skills that really affect are skill with aoe but don’t have aoe atk ratio themself like snipe/multishot

#90

ok thanks, since I’m a wugu I won’t benefit at circling at all, rather only support allies on dungeon runs

#91

Can you not spread false information like this? The nerf was nothing but a rumor. I haven’t seen a single person that actually back it up with a valid source.

#92

This is incorrect. I’ve tested Cannon Shot and Cannon Blast myself with Green Corpse Flower (I grouped 7 of them) and Cannon Shot hits 4 M-size and Cannon Blast hit’s 5 M-size so that’s 8 AoE attack ratio for Cannon Shot and 10 AoE attack ratio for Cannon Blast.

As for the nerf, it’s a rumor but even if it’s to be true, you can “potentially” double the monsters you hit if they’re all not S-size which is true as you rarely ever come across S-size monsters in the latter contents. With an AoE attack ratio of 8 and 10 circling will always be good and will always get better with AoE attack ratio gears.

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#93

does cannon shot aim for the targeted enemy of ir is like barrage, which shoots in the direction of the mouse? same thing with cannon blast, does it shoot in the direction you are facing or what?

#94

Go find it yourself.

#95

This is correct. Although cannon shot’s splash damage for AoE is dependent on who it hits.

#96

I want to be a cannoneer, but I don’t really know what to put in between archer 1 and cannoneer… :slight_smile:

I’m working on a QS atm, thinking A1, QS3, A2, FAL1, CAN1

Going full dex because of the big hits from cannoneer…
Do you guys think this will be good? Single target dps from QS and then AoE from falcon and cannon? Kneeling to get damage from dex.

I hear pure dex is kind of bad with SQ though, would there be a better way to do this?

I dont care about pvp at all, only pve.

#97

Do not go full dex. Just do not. You will loose a lot of damage potential considering some particular situations (Zalciai, monstrance, swift step crit buff, etc). What you should try to find is a number to stop investing in dex.

#98

I’m at 100 dex right now, you think I should stop there for now and go str?

#99

You can invest more but if you are going for QS 3,go for more STR. stop at 100 dex, invest into STR, you will need to rely on green gems for crit rate (and archer +25% crit rate atribute).

#100

got a question for cannoneer

is its worth to invest green gem in manamana

when using cannon skill the crit rate in manamana will remove right?

if so its time to farm for didel i guess

#101

is falconeer a must for cannoneers? is it worth it if i build the other circles around cannoneer or is cannoneer a supplementary circle?

X > wugu 2 > falc > cannoneer

A2/A-R > Sap 2 > Ro > Falc > Cannoneer?