two people were on another channel and I had a channel to myself. yeah it was high aoe. tree of clerics.
Or, maybe, those guys on another channel farmed an hour before you and found nothing, since you got their drops 
the only cleric classes with good aoe dps is inquisitor and PD, and inqusitiors aoe needs a 600k atribute to be good and is situational. the only other true aoe skill in cleric tree is hamaya, which is lackluster and is part of a hiden class thats hard to get.
may i ask what is ur build?
oh i am paladinquisitor i dont have any aoe 
Druid, sadhu and PD have really good AOEā¦
On another note, people in this thread donāt seem to understand the DKP mecanics.
If you kill 20000 mobs without a cube, it means someone else was very happy and got a crap ton of cubes. Wether this was rng or DKP the same thing could be happening to you. People need to stop coming to forum as soon as they have a bad rngā¦ Itās not because you checked 5 minute ago and you were alone that someone did not just enter the map, killed 2 mobs, got a cube and left happily with your purple item you farmed for 10 hours. You then look at the player count and see 1 because he already tpād back in town. But even if it was a complete rng drop system, it would still happen!
I donāt see a crap ton of posts made when people fail to upgrade a weapon, this should be the same thing.
Edit : If I am not mistaken, the closer you get to the DKP count, the higher is the drop rate.
I did not get their drops. everyone was contributing to the drops because everyone was killing things and everyone has an rng chance of looting items. I happened to show up after they did. iām not gonna give people 4 channels just so they have more of a chance to get loot and I have zero + wonāt get to play the game. I could justify not hunting mobs if a player already had a channel and DPK was channel wide ( i think it is a terrible idea) but iām not going to hand people an entire map especially since DPK and RNG are effectively the exact same thing now. since the DPK is now global I was both helping and against them as much as they were to me and that is exactly how it would be in a pure RNG system as well because kills = chance of loot.
two people should theoretically kill twice as fast as I can but they would only get half the loot from their kills as I would since they share their loot with each other.
bokor has good aoe dps too especially with PD. my damballa does about 30-65k aoe damage per zombie. bokor also gathers lots of mobs because zombies aggro more. effigy is pretty good too now. even heal does a lot of damage especially with blessing. if mobs are packed tight then even mikos dispel is decent.
cleric2/bokor3/miko1/pd2 IMC should probably make anti healing debuffs more relevant. or just nerf our dps really hard.
p.s. I got a lv 240 cleric 3 and in saalus I out dps 320+ chars because healbomb + blessing + sadhu is retarded. but good dps out damage me. good non-cleric dps seem to destroy things instantly. monk/inquisitor rapes bosses if he does his rotation right and lands things properly. iām sure that people who are farming the endgame content would laugh at my damage. 555,555 aoe hits is a lot of damage.
may I ask you folk what your weapon is? mine is a +11 windia rod with stage 4 transcendence and a lv 7 and 6 red gem (+550 max damage). I also proc my 4 lv 10 chap cards as much as I can with two different types of potions and I fit as much burst damage as I can into that small frame of time. I wear 3 magic attack head gears too. weapons matter a lot now as I am sure most of you already know.
sometimes i get like 5 cubes in half hour when im the only one on the channel, other times i get nothing for an hourā¦
i think you underestimate the purple gearā¦ its not something you farm, its something you just get
The problem is that the contribution is not fair.
On a 20k DPK cube they could have killed 19900 mob, then you (or anybody) show up, kill 10 mobs and drop the cube. This is the DPK system you find good.
Yes, but the system doesnāt work this way. Two people kill twice as fast and RNGesus decides who get both rewards. This is how it works atm 
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so many people wanted RNGsus to save them and they got it and now other people want DPK back.
I like the current loot system. the current āDPKā system is random but the more you kill the more the RNG chance increases until finally someone is given something.
the old DPK system was dumb because it was bound to channel instead of map and almost always dropped at a set amount of kills which means people can ninja your loot. it also encouraged people to hog maps and to kick innocent people who are merely passing through out or you might be more rude to them than usual or they would perceive you as a jerk because you donāt want them in the channel. it made you paranoid of others. everyone became an enemy.
yeah it is true that RNGESUS decides who gets the loot. but if you kill more you have more chances since the chance increases, yet it is still random because it resets after someone gets the loot. itās random assurance and itās glorious. just remember that RNGESUS has the power to save you and the power to cast you into having no loot ever again.
I have two eagle feathers without trying only because RNGESUS loves me. REPENT of your bad luck and see the light of the glorious rare items hardly ever listed on the market.
btw unless they were forced to change it because of the bugsā¦ DPK does not reset during a maintenance now and I am not certain but it might not reset when you leave a channel ( or maybe the map?) either. I dunno if channel crashing resets it or not. there are so many monster gems that were never in the market that now are. I find the loot changes to be good though I donāt know how much the DPK bug contributed to those gems being in the market.
but no one wants to hunt for an item for 15 hours straight and not loot one. especially if you need 35 of them. if it was for one item then it would be more acceptable. but even 20,000 for a purple cube seems like a lot. I think they are intended to be that rare so iām not bothered by it. almost all pract purples are better anyways.
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Can someone explain me, why when Iām farming any cubes for the 150/190 HG every time I got one the next 5 ~ 10 minutes more of the same cubes are gonna drop? I mean, today I farmed in the 190 for about 50 minutes and I got nothing, so I just came back 15 minutes later and for the next 5 minutes I got 3 armor and 2 weapon.
you have been touched by the hand of RNGESUS! praise the loot!
unless it is just some kind of bug. tos has a plethora of bugs. were other people on one of the channels? itās not uncommon to loot several things (DPK) in a matter of a few mins now. before the loot update it was impossible.
I recently got 3X roxana recipes when fighting a red mob pack. did you fight a pack of red mob spawns when you got that loot?
lower lvs are fun and "challenging" without blessing buff and +0 weapon and no gems. taking more than 1 damage feels good. got 3X recipe: roxana pants from this red mob spawn
On a full RNG based system, you could kill singlehandedly 60k mobs without a single drop. The current DKP ASSURES you that after 20k kills, a purple box is dropped.
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Dragon Kill Point mechanics?
Just nitpicking since you called people out, but managed to mess up the abbreviation of Drop Per Kill AND misspell mechanics.
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Could be for drop kill points! Also, english is my third languageā¦
This is a thread to share results good or bad, if most of the people are sharing their bad results then that says something about the DPK system, we can also express our opinions/complains about anything we like/dislike as long as dont hurt others, if you read the title of the thread you already know wich kind of stuff expect from it.
That doesnt seem to work with cubes, we been doing the math and the drop rate from the cubes seems to be 100% DPK only, regular items do drop with a DPK+RNG system indeed (the more you kill the easier it drops) , but as far as we had tested stuff, HG CUBES dont work this way.
And this is why i say that the DPK+RNG system (the more you kill the easier it gets) its the best, most people seem to miss the point of the DPK system and think that its a bad thing when in reallity it helps a lot, the problem comes when the item its DPK only ignoring the RNG part of the system wich shouldnt happen specially when DPK gets shared by MAP, all on all I love the DPK+RNG system however it seems to me that its not working as it should atm.
Yep, this seems to be pretty much it, you just get in there wishing to be lucky enough while also killing as fast as you can.
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So you are sure nobody ever entered the map while you were farming and never killed a single mob and counted all the mobs killed? Highly doubt it.
Do you have an official announcement that supports this? I did drop multiple cubes in like 50 kills in the past. Happened 3 or 4 times. How to explain that if its pure DPK?
You answered your questions with your own arguments mate. Also do you have any evidence that say that its not?have they even resolved the dpk bug already?
Unlike you we been doing very hard test on this to be more consistent while farming, our results did get us a few purple boxes already, and you can believe it or not, but there are times when thereās no one in the map, it would be stupid to ātestā with people in the map, im tired of people that think they are smart just to deny facts lol short story:
1.- We been testing from 2 weeks now
2.- We do wait untill map its empty to start our testings, if not we do regular farm
3.- We do time number of kills untill armor/weapon drops (it matches de DPK that we now so far, sometimes its actually even higher but so far hasnt been lower)
3.- About your concers, see point 2
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Lets resume :
I say cubes are DPK+RNG, you say cubes are DPK only.
I am asking you why you think cubes are not DPK + rng. Your proof is your āmathā thing. I questionned that you canāt really math it out because there is no way to be sure no one popped in th map, killed 5 mobs and got a cube.
How did I answer my own question?
I still wonder why you are sure that cubes are only DPK.
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Your edit did make this post useless. But I guess itās your experience. So I would only have been lucky on my multiple drops in less than 50 kills. Or you are incredibly unlucky. Or people you farm with hide drops to you. (Can happen) and I guess it is 100% impossible that someone pops in the 320 hg for 2 minutes while you are there.
You are failing so hard while trying to sound cool, please stop being a try-hard from the forums and actually learn to read.
I havent 100% said that IT ONLY WORKS LIKE THAT, im sharing our results, they can be wrong/or not, but thats how it has been for us so far, hope you already understand that.
Wrong, this was made so all people could share their personal experience with 315 farming, regardless if they got a purple weapon with 1 kill or not, read the title.
1.- Not gonna say its not a posibilty if someone farm with random people, but so far has not happened to me since I farm with close IRL friends while in discord, also the cubes fall into the ground so its very easy to see them.
2.- If you miss a box and there are few people in the map its every easy to still do calculations if you do know how many mobs you had killed untill now(thats how far/close you are from the boxes), however the more people in the map it becomes imposible, thats why we dont do tests when there are 2 partys with 4-5 people each.
I have to keep editing cause i dont want to spam with new replys, sorry.
I do understand because im the same way, thats why we didnt gave up on farming even after our horrible experience the first days, however once we started doing calculations everything was easier for us.
And i also want to apologize if sound rude but dudeā¦ each time i say something about the DPK system people always come to me with the āmap shared argumentā it has become very frustrating to me and to be honest, most of them dont even use actual facts/or arguments to prove their points, thats why i dislike players from the forums that are just there to troll, sorry lol.
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You changed your post after I replied and now quote your modified post for my answerā¦ Duuuuude 
But anyway it still was a good discussion. I was legit trying to understand how you mathed it out. I just think itās really hard to be sure anyone popped in.